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Old 03-17-2017, 06:44 AM
 
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And I ask again...will you people expect lower drug prices with these kinds of cuts?
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:48 AM
 
Location: NJ
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NIH, DOE Office of Science face deep cuts in Trump's first budget | Science | AAAS

Obviously climate research will end under this administration, but will someone please explain the deprioritizing of science and education in general? If the US is not meant to be a leader in STEM innovation and the arts what exactly are we to lead in? Blue collar labor and servicing the wealthy?
Climate research doesn't need to be cut unless it is for theatrics. The DEP, EPA, et al just needs to stop buying assault weapons and ammunition and direct funds in an efficient manner more in line with their responsibility.
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:55 AM
 
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Climate research doesn't need to be cut unless it is for theatrics. The DEP, EPA, et al just needs to stop buying assault weapons and ammunition and direct funds in an efficient manner more in line with their responsibility.
Well, it's on the chopping block. They do not support it. I just saw that on the news from one of his talking heads.

Trump's Budget Slashes Climate Change Funding : The Two-Way : NPR

eta: Although you are 100% correct if that's what they are doing.
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Default NYPD says Trump’s budget would gut New York’s counterterrorism efforts, make the city less safe

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.468a06451823

The New York City Police Department says that President Trump’s proposed budget, which includes sweeping cuts across the government, would gut “critical” efforts to fight terrorism in the nation’s largest city.

Police say the funding cuts would hit everything from intelligence analysis to active-shooter training. The blunt assessment was delivered by the top law enforcement officer in Trump’s hometown, who leads an agency tasked with defending the city against terrorism — and, more recently, protecting Trump Tower since it became a de facto “White House north” while first lady Melania Trump and her son, Barron, are living there.

“Under the president’s proposal, nearly all federal funding to the NYPD would be eradicated,” James P. O’Neill, the New York City police commissioner, said at a briefing Thursday afternoon. “This funding is absolutely critical. It is the backbone of our entire counter-terrorism apparatus.”
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Old 03-17-2017, 07:01 AM
 
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Why do you think the direction of the sciences and arts should eminate from a politburo in DC?
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I don't know if there are grammar problems with this sentence or I need more coffee. Say again?
I understood what it meant.

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Put another way why isn't around $24 billion for the NIH or $4 billion for the enough?
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Enough for what? Do you know?
I don't know but Department of Energy's (DOE's) Office of Science FY 2000 request was $2,844 billion. Which is the about $4B in todays dollars and I suspect it was bloated back then.

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President Clinton's FY 2000 budget provides $15.9 billion for NIH, a $320 million increase — or 2.1 percent — over the 1999 level. 15.9 billion is a little over 22 Billion in todays dollars.
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Old 03-17-2017, 07:13 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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What is it you imagine you're winning?
May I answer?
The American people are winning the right to be governed as The Constitution prescribed.

As it is now, We, The People, are governed by a fourth branch of government called The Administrative Branch, which consists of a myriad of agencies and bureaus. They rule by arbitrary rule more than law, and running afoul of the rules of one of these entities can actually be worse than breaking a law. They have been largely unaffected by elections, as they have always been able to annually count on an ever larger budget.

Breaking the back of the administrative state will first require that we starve it of funds.
There is plenty of information out there about the administrative state. Most people credit Woodrow Wilson with its beginning and almost no one denies its existence.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.1fb373b2f461
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Old 03-17-2017, 07:28 AM
 
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NIH, DOE Office of Science face deep cuts in Trump's first budget | Science | AAAS

Obviously climate research will end under this administration, but will someone please explain the deprioritizing of science and education in general? If the US is not meant to be a leader in STEM innovation and the arts what exactly are we to lead in? Blue collar labor and servicing the wealthy?
You left out the planned cuts to the State Department as well.

Why do you characterize Trump's budget proposal as "deprioritizing education," when his budget includes "$1.4 billion to expand vouchers, including for private schools?"

You know the federal government does not actually educate anyone, it does not teach any classes to students. All the fed does is take taxpayer money away from the states, and then gives the money back to the states, usually with strings and mandates attached.
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Old 03-17-2017, 07:31 AM
 
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There's a lot they could of cut instead like the 4 billion dollar wall comes up first

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Old 03-17-2017, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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People don't realize that people at these agencies are getting paid 200K salaries to sit around and do nothing and go out and drink beers in DC.

I'm not really bothered by this. People act like it's directly cutting up into the kids education and the lights are going to be out in schools because of this.

These agencies have been bloated for years, especially DOE and the EPA. I'd be okay if DOE went away, honestly. It doesn't actually educate anyone, it's just about federal funding that the states use for other things anyway. Why do you think American public school education is so poor?
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Old 03-17-2017, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Big winner? The American taxpayer and American citizens.

The big losers? The American far-left.

And the tempter tantrums continue...
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