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Old 03-27-2017, 09:42 AM
 
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Are all immigrants bad? No of course not

Are all immigrants here legally? no

Do citizens do bad things? yes of course

The issues isn't about being anti immigrant....this is a crime that could have been prevented with common immigration policy and enforcement. These guys never should have been here and this crime never should have happened.

In Cananda you have to prove your worth to move there. The US should be the same. They always say well the US was built on immigrants....yeah those that could function in a work environment. US turned away thousands before and it still should.
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Old 03-27-2017, 10:07 AM
 
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It's not all that complicated despite your claims to the contrary. Remove the ability for illegal aliens to work or get any social services and the majority of the problem ends and those still here will either get legal or self deport.
See, not complicated at all.

I will now await the usual (baseless) rant about how the price of lettuce will go up to $5 a head and there will be no maids,janitors,kitchen workers or gardeners and our economy will fall apart...
Why do you believe the factually based argument regarding product pricing is baseless?

This is a difficult subject to talk about with people who don't know (or want to know) the history of cheap work exploitation in this country.
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Old 03-27-2017, 10:09 AM
 
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Crap, just complete crap. The reason the wages are low is that there are people who have no choice but to take them as they are here illegally.
Remove the cheap (slave) labor and wages will rise or, the companies will figure out how to automate as much of it as they can.
Then why won't companies figure out a way to automate now? Why didn't they do that in the first place before even hiring illegal immigrants?

The statement is not complete crap. You proved it when you said companies would figure out how to automate instead of saying Americans would take those jobs. How do you automate jobs like house cleaning, gardening and cooking?
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Old 03-27-2017, 01:45 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Then why won't companies figure out a way to automate now? Why didn't they do that in the first place before even hiring illegal immigrants?

The statement is not complete crap. You proved it when you said companies would figure out how to automate instead of saying Americans would take those jobs. How do you automate jobs like house cleaning, gardening and cooking?
They are in fact working on automating many of the labor intensive jobs. Robots are currently very close to doing menial tasks and I'd fully expect huge advances in the next few years.
As for why they didn't before hiring illegals? C'mon, really? You really need to even have that question answered?
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Old 03-27-2017, 02:27 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Good. They should be deported
After what they did to her, they should be executed.
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Old 03-27-2017, 02:37 PM
 
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Then why won't companies figure out a way to automate now? Why didn't they do that in the first place before even hiring illegal immigrants?

The statement is not complete crap. You proved it when you said companies would figure out how to automate instead of saying Americans would take those jobs. How do you automate jobs like house cleaning, gardening and cooking?
And roofing, painting, landscaping, construction? All of these used to pay a decent wage.
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Old 03-27-2017, 03:06 PM
 
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They are Dreamers, it's not their fault
No they weren't. They were recent border jumpers. Dreamers were the ones who were raised here.
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Old 03-27-2017, 03:08 PM
 
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Maddow, Blitzer, Matthews, Bueller, Bueller, Bueller...
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Old 03-27-2017, 03:09 PM
 
Location: USA
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No they weren't. They were recent border jumpers. Dreamers were the ones who were raised here.
I was being sarcastic. The whole Dreamer effort was just a stepping stone to gain sympathy before trying to get all Illegal aliens Citizenship.
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Old 03-27-2017, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Warrior Country
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So, how many other rapes that occurred that day is Fox making headline news?
When a 14 year old girl is orally, vaginally and anally gang raped by two men (one an adult)....inside a school, during school hours....that's fairly newsworthy.

Meanwhile....on CNN & NBC....Trump offended Mexicans and the Frankfurter industry by putting salsa on a Hot Dog, and Melania offended all Muslims & Africans..... for being able to speak 6 languages....but none of these are Middle Eastern or African languages.
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