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And the subsidy thing is far trickier than is being indicated here. If you don't subsidize but other nations do your industry will end up in an inferior position. Fact of life. If no one provides subsidies you can claim the market place will rule. But China now dominates silicon solar...an American invention. How? they subsidized the industry until it became all powerful in the industry.
My wife has a plug-in hybrid that works great for her 12 mile round trip commute. We gas it up four or five times a year, other than that it's free. We have solar and our electric bill last year was just over $200. All in all a cheap date.
My wife has a plug-in hybrid that works great for her 12 mile round trip commute. We gas it up four or five times a year, other than that it's free. We have solar and our electric bill last year was just over $200. All in all a cheap date.
................ Well, after she paid the $30,000 cost up front it was "free".
12 mile commute? 60 miles a week/3000 miles a year? For $30,000? Kinda expensive, I think.
Walk. That's free!
................ Well, after she paid the $30,000 cost up front it was "free".
12 mile commute? 60 miles a week/3000 miles a year? For $30,000? Kinda expensive, I think.
Walk. That's free!
Or get her a boob job and then let her hitchhike.
Bought it used but I hear you, any car is expensive today. We are planning to retire in the next couple of years and part of my plan is to get our nut as close to nothing as possible. Have the house paid for and no expenses other than taxes and a small utility bill is our goal. At our age the boob job is probably not the right option
Actually we are rapidly reaching the point where silicon solar is so cheap that you duplicate all fossil sources. The loaded cost of silicon solar is less than the variable cost of fossil.
And it likely has another factor bigger than 2 over the next decade.
We still need a solution to the storage problem but if solar gets cheap enough it may be in hand...Some version of thermal driven electrolysis may well make the production of hydrogen feasible.
There are numerous paths being explored. The probability is that something will work. I would think that fossil has only a couple of decades left. And that will go primarily to natural gas in the US.
We've been hearing those same stories concerning solar (and wind) for decades. Both have proven unreliable and not economically viable. They lack the ability to provide base load power. People actually want to turn their lights on when it's dark outside. Every "renewable" source needs 100% backup by conventional power systems, primarily fossil fueled ones, either oil, natural gas or coal. Some attempt to provide backup with pumped hydro, but the capital costs for that are huge. When promoters try to sell renewables based on cost-they always fail to mention those details.
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