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Old 04-11-2017, 12:08 PM
 
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100% agree.



By refusing to leave and screaming like a child.
That was not what other passengers said. Maybe you were there, and you knew more than they did?
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:08 PM
 
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When a passenger is forcibly "bumped" to make room for someone else, is his luggage also found and removed from the plane? Or does the plane take off with his belongings?
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:11 PM
 
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We'd probably have less "overbooking" don't you think ?

As long as we're all compliable cattle who bend over whenever asked to do so, the airlines will continue to mistreat paying passengers, and in fact probably escalate their mistreatment of passengers until they find the point where enough of their paying passengers revolt.....like this man did.

I don't know if he was a doctor or not, I don't know if he's a nice guy or a jerk, and it matters not to me. All I need to know is that he was a legitimate paying passenger, who essentially have a contract with United Airlines to get him from point A to B on a specific date and time, baring mechanical and/or weather related difficulties.

Neither weather or mechanical difficulties were present here. They simply needed his seat to further their financial interest, and decided to void his contract without his consent.

For gods sake, they should have just bought him off. Up the "reaccomodate" (don't you just love that sanitized corporate word United came up with ? bumping award until enough people give up their seats. Isn't that how United prices their seats ? It's supply and demand. If the supply is limited, the price goes up, and vice versa. But while they are happy to use this principle when it works in their best interest, when the shoe is on the other foot, call the cops and have your paying customer dragged off the flight when he doesn't "volunteer". That's a strange definition of a "volunteer".
The contract states if there are no volunteers you could be bumped. The question seems to be if they can do it with passengers already seated on the plane. It's nice that there are usually volunteers but if not, you might be picked to go. That is part of the agreement.
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:12 PM
 
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First link that came up: David Dao, passenger removed from United flight, a doctor with troubled past

That is him yelling, at about the 10 second mark.
Sigh. Dude, have you not seen the video? The guy screamed when they grabbed him & dragged him. Now, provide a video that shows him screaming prior to being manhandled. I'll wait.
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:13 PM
 
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The contract states if there are no volunteers you could be bumped. The question seems to be if they can do it with passengers already seated on the plane. It's nice that there are usually volunteers but if not, you might be picked to go. That is part of the agreement.


From what I have been reading, the UA documentation on bumping applies only before boarding. In fact, it states that several times. No where does it say that you can be bumped once you are already boarded.
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:13 PM
 
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I just had a funny thought.

If, as has been suggested, the liberals on here are being paid by Soros, and the Trump people are being paid by the Russians, who is paying all these folks defending United?
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:15 PM
 
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First link that came up: David Dao, passenger removed from United flight, a doctor with troubled past

That is him yelling, at about the 10 second mark.
They had already grabbed him by that point.

The comments from the passengers do not support that he was being belligerent or that they approved what was going on.
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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While I didn't and won't read through all the previous 62 pages of this thread, let's be clear here: the flight was not overbooked. United crew members trying to make it to another city to work another flight demanded that they be seated. Its because of this that the airline came onto the already boarded flight and demanded volunteers and then forcibly removed the man after "randomly" not finding volunteers. The airline is completely to blame and I don't believe that they have a true lawful remedy/excuse for their behavior. While the contract of passage/carriage is clear that United may bump you if a flight is oversold, this was not the case here. Shame on United and I hope they pay dearly for this disgraceful behavior.
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:17 PM
 
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Sigh. Dude, have you not seen the video? The guy screamed when they grabbed him & dragged him. Now, provide a video that shows him screaming prior to being manhandled. I'll wait.
Are you intentionally being dense? Belligerence EQUALS staying in the seat and failing to leave private property when asked to do so.


Blocking and impeding private property IS ITSELF BELLIGERENCE. IT IS ITSELF INITIATING VIOLENCE. Get it through your skull already. You don't have to be screaming or acting like an idiot before being removed. The FAILURE TO MOVE AND LEAVE IS ITSELF BELLIGERENT AND VIOLENT.
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Old 04-11-2017, 12:19 PM
 
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Why is it acceptable practice to routinely overbook a flight then forcibly remove people again?

As most things it's seems, the whole rationale is just dumb. Nothing makes any sense.

The question needs to be why are the Airlines allowed to overbook flights to begin with.

Once again. It's not rocket science. But yet basic logic eludes the vast majority.



The idea that someone COULD be dragged off a flight they paid for involuntarily is laughable.
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