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Old 04-19-2017, 03:22 PM
 
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He DID not commit any crime. That's why this is NEWS. That's the reason for the lawsuit.
DHS Commissioner Kelly was on Meet the Press and he touched on the subject and claimed Montes had been convicted of theft.
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Old 04-19-2017, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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DHS Commissioner Kelly was on Meet the Press and he touched on the subject and claimed Montes had been convicted of theft.
Kelly's going off the rails; two days ago he told Congress to SHUT UP. Oh yeah, that's gonna happen.

DHS has already lied about the Montes case:
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...deport-dreamer

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Kelly and DHS claim that the department is still being selective about who’s getting deported — and blame the media and immigration activists for spreading fear among immigrant communities.

Because DACA recipients already have protections, at least in theory, and because President Trump, Secretary Kelly, and Speaker of the House Paul Ryan have all indicated that DACA recipients aren’t being targeted for deportation, any sign that a DACA recipient has gotten picked up by immigration agents gets scrutinized as a potential smoking gun — a way to prove, once and for all, that the administration is in fact being indiscriminate in deporting unauthorized immigrants, and that the fear throughout immigrant communities is wholly justified.
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Perhaps most importantly, DHS’s story on Montes keeps changing. First, the administration said his DACA status had expired. Then it quietly admitted it had not.

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Old 04-19-2017, 04:03 PM
 
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Correct. And so far, tRUMP has NOT walked back the DACA policy.
"Walk back" what? President Obama sent a Memo, it's not even an E.O that is removed by another E.O. -- so far, the Trump Administration is not bothering with the DACA folks - that doesn't mean that a Memo is LAW.

The entire story of this Montes is a bit bizarre. IF he has a current DACA status, he should have a card to prove it .... but he doesn't. He claims to have a High School diploma and has been is the USA since age 9 - but claims he doesn't understand English and had no idea what Border Patrol/ICE were telling him/asking him.

At the end of the Day ..... Attorney General Sessions is correct - anyone in the USA illegally (not under the authority of LAW) is subject to deportation at any time.

It will be interesting to see if this Judge thinks an Obama Memo supersedes US Immigration Laws.
I'm betting it doesn't.
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:14 PM
 
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The lawsuit is against the tRUMP administration.
The lawsuit isn't against Trump personally. He doesn't have to hire lawyers and pay them out of his own pocket to appear before Curiel re this particular matter. If there is a settlement, he won't have to pay the settlement separately and personally....all of us will be paying for it, and that includes you .
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Old 04-19-2017, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I am very much in favor of DACA, but if he did break the law I believe this disqualifies him.

If trump is going after the bad hombres, however, he should start with the MS 13 guys who just killed four people on LI, and not on shoplifters and traffic violators.
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Old 04-19-2017, 05:35 PM
 
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Kelly's going off the rails; two days ago he told Congress to SHUT UP. Oh yeah, that's gonna happen.

DHS has already lied about the Montes case:
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...deport-dreamer
He is not off the rails.

You are annoyed that laws are being enforced counter to what your well spoken and clean hero said.

The suit will go nowhere.
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Old 04-19-2017, 06:37 PM
 
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I am very much in favor of DACA, but if he did break the law I believe this disqualifies him.

If trump is going after the bad hombres, however, he should start with the MS 13 guys who just killed four people on LI, and not on shoplifters and traffic violators.

I see you are still repeating this same old nonsense. This guy wasn't sought after by ICE. He made himself known by his own actions. Since when are "American" shoplifters and traffic violators excused from their crimes? Why the double standard for illegal aliens?
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Old 04-19-2017, 06:50 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Nah it's Obama's fault. Every problem wingnuts have is because of Obama
HMMM??? Just like Obama blamed Bush for 8 years.

Sort of ironic. Isn't it.
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Old 04-19-2017, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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There is no case. The illegal alien left and then returned to the USA (something he admitted to under oath) without receiving permission to do so. This nullified his "legal" status under the deferred action for childhood arrivals program.
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Old 04-20-2017, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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There is no case. The illegal alien left and then returned to the USA (something he admitted to under oath) without receiving permission to do so. This nullified his "legal" status under the deferred action for childhood arrivals program.
The Dreamer was trying to hail a taxi in the US in early Feb. when ICE accosted him. They asked for ID but he had left his wallet at home. He told them he was a Dreamer. They yanked him into ICE offices and could not find his record in computer system, so they walked him to the Border and made him cross into Mexico. DHS now ADMITS they could not find him in computer system at first then they did...at the time he crossed back into US. DHS has NO record of their encounter with Montes and of making him go across the Border into MX. Well, duh, here's why:

I golfed daily for 5 years at a beautiful golf course literally on the border between AZ and MX, south of Bisbee, AZ (golf course is Turquoise Valley). There is a large Border Control station just north of the golf course.

About once a month while golfing, we'd spot some UDAs (this is what they were called in AZ...UnDocumented Aliens, back in early 2000's). The UDAs were easy to spot....they were the only people on the course without clubs and they all had one dark large trash bag with their belongings.

Anyway, sometimes we'd see them run until out of sight. But often, Border Control would have a helicopter overhead, and the copter would LITERALLY herd them back into MX. It seemed as if there was an unspoken agreement between Border Control and the UDAs. As in: ok guys, we spotted you, you see us, so we'll just hover over you until we see you cross back into MX. Undoubtedly there was NO paperwork on these incidents. Undoubtedly the UDAs tried again another day.

For all you cons living in Bumfart, IN or similar areas far from the US MEX border, this is how things go.
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