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Who is 'jumping the cue'? I think what you refer to is a study from Canada that showed that in a year 55,000 Canadians sought healthcare at least once outside of Canada, that is 55,000 out of 36 million people, and that study did not track where they went or why so it's quite reasonable to speculate that a number of them went to Turkey for hair transplants or South American for plastic surgery just like US Citizens do.
Paul Martin, a former "Liberal" Prime Minister in Canada famously sought medical care in the U.S. An efriend of mine from Ontario was about to come to the U.S. when his pacemaker battery was three days away from dying. They accommodated him but barely. And some Canadians might not admit cue-jumping on a study.
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How do we afford it? We quit pretending like the billionaires in this Country will somehow spread their wealth among us if we quit making them pay taxes....
And those billionaires promptly move their citizenship to a tax have or use "tax planning" i.e. loopholes. Getting money from billionaires is a lot like nailing jello to a wall.
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and we realize that there is no real benefit in spending 600 billion dollars on national defense every year which is more than the next highest 7 countries combined.
Did you enjoy September 11? Or September 1, 1939?
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And more than anything else we abandon the bizarre fantasy that a free market health care system is even feasible, and if it is, why doesn't it exist in any other Western Country?
The other Western countries exist under our health umbrella. If we pulled the plug on their fantasy world (a lot like a 16 year old high school student who solves the world's problems with mommy and daddy's money) we could lower our defense spending and those countries would quickly spiral into poverty.
Paul Martin, a former "Liberal" Prime Minister in Canada famously sought medical care in the U.S. An efriend of mine from Ontario was about to come to the U.S. when his pacemaker battery was three days away from dying. They accommodated him but barely. And some Canadians might not admit cue-jumping on a study.
And those billionaires promptly move their citizenship to a tax have or use "tax planning" i.e. loopholes. Getting money from billionaires is a lot like nailing jello to a wall. Did you enjoy September 11? Or September 1, 1939? The other Western countries exist under our health umbrella. If we pulled the plug on their fantasy world (a lot like a 16 year old high school student who solves the world's problems with mommy and daddy's money) we could lower our defense spending and those countries would quickly spiral into poverty.
We have millions of people with no healthcare and if Trump gets his way there will be millions more, that's not ok. I have friends who live in Canada and the UK they do not 'jump the cue' and they are happy with their healthcare.
So, if billionaires can find loopholes, why bother to tax them? Maybe it's time to close the loopholes?
If the Bush administration had paid attention to warnings about what the terrorists were planning we could have stopped 9/11 but having the biggest 'armada' and the most airplanes will never save us, not in 2017...this is not 1918 when war was fought in trenches and on horseback.
I am not sure how our defense aid to foreign countries is financing their healthcare, that doesn't make much sense, the reality is that those countries decided that all of their citizens should have healthcare and we still want to pick who is entitled to healthcare and who isn't. If we ever catch up the rest of civilized world we will have single payer too.
We have millions of people with no healthcare and if Trump gets his way there will be millions more, that's not ok. I have friends who live in Canada and the UK they do not 'jump the cue' and they are happy with their healthcare.
I speak to plenty of Canadians who are not thrilled with their health care. There are lengthy waits for appointments.
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So, if billionaires can find loopholes, why bother to tax them? Maybe it's time to close the loopholes?
Can you stop them from moving or at least renouncing citizenship? Ask Mick Jagger and others how willing they were to pay Britain's taxes, despite being politically quite left-wing.
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If the Bush administration had paid attention to warnings about what the terrorists were planning we could have stopped 9/11 but having the biggest 'armada' and the most airplanes will never save us, not in 2017...this is not 1918 when war was fought in trenches and on horseback.
Bush was in office less than eight months when the planes hit. Some of this is on Bill Clinton for his supine reaction to the 1998 attacks on the Kenyan and Tanzanian embassies and the U.S.S. Cole.
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I am not sure how our defense aid to foreign countries is financing their healthcare, that doesn't make much sense, the reality is that those countries decided that all of their citizens should have healthcare and we still want to pick who is entitled to healthcare and who isn't. If we ever catch up the rest of civilized world we will have single payer too.
By providing defense we've lightened the budget load on the European countries and Canada considerably. That frees them to spend money on creating a socialist utopia and to lecture us on being unjust.
I've had lengthy wait times for appointments for me and my children. I know many friends who have too. So what? Unless its a life threatening issue (and those are prioritized straightaway), who cares?
I've had lengthy wait times for appointments for me and my children. I know many friends who have too. So what? Unless its a life threatening issue (and those are prioritized straightaway), who cares?
I'm talking about long waits to get appointments. As I described above that can be a problem with an expiring pacemaker battery.
I'm talking about long waits to get appointments. As I described above that can be a problem with an expiring pacemaker battery.
I bet you $100 right now that NO ONE in Canada ever died because they couldn't get an appointment to get a pacemaker battery replaced, that's just nonsense. You may wait for a knee replacement in Canada if you are 70 and lead a sedentary lifestyle but for critical care, or treatment for chronic disease like diabetes or a heart condition you receive care in a timely manner.
When I lived in Reno I waited 4 months for an appointment to see a Rheumatologist and I had excellent employer provided health insurance.
I've had lengthy wait times for appointments for me and my children. I know many friends who have too. So what? Unless its a life threatening issue (and those are prioritized straightaway), who cares?
I bet you $100 right now that NO ONE in Canada ever died because they couldn't get an appointment to get a pacemaker battery replaced, that's just nonsense. You may wait for a knee replacement in Canada if you are 70 and lead a sedentary lifestyle but for critical care, or treatment for chronic disease like diabetes or a heart condition you receive care in a timely manner.
As I posted above he received the pacemaker, with three days to go. And he started bugging the powers that be about it earlier. Trust me, he had the money to go stateside.
As I posted above he received the pacemaker, with three days to go. And he started bugging the powers that be about it earlier. Trust me, he had the money to go stateside.
Nonsense; utter and complete nonsense!
There is no set expiration date awarded to pacemaker "generators". Their typical lifespan is usually from 6 to 8 years dependant upon the programming required for the particular condition the patient has. Roughly speaking; hotter the spark required for "pacing" = shorter the lifespan. In any case, the life of his generator and it's remaining ability to provide reliable 'pacemaking' are monitored frequently at any number of locations such as clinics and hospitals. Where your friend was having his monitored would have been his choice due to proximity and they can hook him up and check his "generator's" function within minutes.
I know of no facility that would be able to state categorically "you've got three days left" nor do they go by a fixed expiry date. All of that is determined by his particular condition and it's requirements placed upon the pacemaker's "generator" along with periodic monitoring.
Were his "generator" determined to be operating close to the minimum required safety margins for his requirements he'd have been in and done in an afternoon.
There are many more people LEAVING the U.S. to obtain healthcare yearly than are coming there from Canada, the U.K. Switzerland, France, Germany, Italy, Greece, Portugal, even Thailand COMBINED.
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