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Old 07-15-2009, 04:52 PM
 
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Sick of ridiculous emergency room bills? If the private hospitals have to compete with free government clinics maybe they will be more reasonable. All the new hospitals and clinics need staff and we can train them here instead of import them. That is the most likely avenue for job creation, not 'green'.

 
Old 07-15-2009, 05:02 PM
 
Location: The Great State of Texas, Finally!
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According to the Bammer, healthcare is driving up our deficits and preventing our country from economic recovery. Once the Bammer takes care of Obamacare, the country will be humming right along. La la la la puppydogs and rainbows!
 
Old 07-15-2009, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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If Obama does it right -
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Old 07-15-2009, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Fort Myers Fl
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Sick of ridiculous emergency room bills? If the private hospitals have to compete with free government clinics maybe they will be more reasonable. All the new hospitals and clinics need staff and we can train them here instead of import them. That is the most likely avenue for job creation, not 'green'.
Free government healthcare? Everything the government does costs more than what the private sector can do it for. I have government contracts to transport military equipment and sometimes I honestly feel guilty on the rate they pay compared to non-government contracts.

But then after all the regulations I have to follow and piles of paper work the guilt goes away.
 
Old 07-15-2009, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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Yes, I find this part of the "plan" very perplexing. Obama says this plan will provide more care and better care for everyone, and it will cost less. How on earth can any of you swallow such a blatant contradiction of reality. It's like saying I can build you a newer, better house and it will be cheaper than the one you have now. This mix of words just doesn't compute, plain and simple.

Also, I keep hearing the words "public option" How can you call a mandatory plan an option? Are any of you asking yourselves these questions too? This is just the latest attempt by our government to take more control of our lives and force us to do what they want. Funny how they really got fired up about healthcare right after they gained a large interest in AIG, one of the largest insurance providers in the world. And hey, wasn't that tax payer money that saved AIG? Well hell, we don't need to be taxed for healthcare. We already own our own insurance multi national. And I don't know about you, but I haven't seen any returns on my investment yet. I guess they can just keep it and pay for any medical costs I have come up.

Oh, and while I am thinking about it, isn't it funny how we are going to be taxed to pay off the stimulus bill that came from our tax money? I didn't know it worked like that. So we allow the government to lend our money to all these corporations and banks to help them out, and then we pay our own money back into the system. Hey, whatever works right.
 
Old 07-15-2009, 05:20 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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it certainly will lower the price. doctors, prepare to spend 10 years in school, to make $7 an hour. yup, that's gonna happen.
 
Old 07-15-2009, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Sick of ridiculous emergency room bills? If the private hospitals have to compete with free government clinics maybe they will be more reasonable. All the new hospitals and clinics need staff and we can train them here instead of import them. That is the most likely avenue for job creation, not 'green'.

Ummm who pays better the private sector or public? What new hospitals are you talking about? What government clinics? Now why would we be able to train our own people under this new (fantasy land) version of healthcare rather than our currrent system. You do realize we recruit nurses from all over the world to meet our current demand. Why will people suddenly come running to work in a government run system.

Finally where are we getting this "free" healthcare? the healthcare fairy?

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Old 07-15-2009, 05:27 PM
 
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According to the Bammer, healthcare is driving up our deficits and preventing our country from economic recovery. Once the Bammer takes care of Obamacare, the country will be humming right along. La la la la puppydogs and rainbows!
I thought a "bammer" was someone from alabama
 
Old 07-15-2009, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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it certainly will lower the price. doctors, prepare to spend 10 years in school, to make $7 an hour. yup, that's gonna happen.
What will happen is people all over this country, from doctors to carpenters, will just stop caring. They will say to hell with it, and live on the system that has robbed them of their livelihood. We are in the middle of the creation of a total welfare state. Only problem is, someone has to work. I guess the government will just have to enslave us. But oh well, life goes on right.
 
Old 07-15-2009, 05:37 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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What will happen is people all over this country, from doctors to carpenters, will just stop caring. They will say to hell with it, and live on the system that has robbed them of their livelihood. We are in the middle of the creation of a total welfare state. Only problem is, someone has to work. I guess the government will just have to enslave us. But oh well, life goes on right.
didn't ayn rand ask that very question 50 years ago? perhaps some people like the idea of everyone having the same. well, I like owning my home. I like my brand new car. I earned the right to have those things. just wait, there will be a federal car program. it's going to keep getting worse before it gets any better.
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