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Old 05-14-2017, 03:44 PM
 
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Zimmerman was exonerated in a court of law and Slager pled guilty. The reason I refer to black culture is because there seems to be a discipline problem with the kids.
Notice in the cases in used as reference, white males killing people and not being disciplined. Where in this case is this black kid not being disciplined? And for that matter, blacks are over represented in prison. We don't get away with things or get those Brock Turner 3 months of jail time for rape sentences. Black people who don't even commit crimes often end up in jail. There is not multiple cases like Zimmerman, Slager, and countless other cops getting away with murder but with blacks. The only one is OJ. We are not getting away with crimes. I don't understand how yall will quote black prison rates in one breath then turn around and act like blacks get away with stuff in the other. If anybody gets away with stuff its whites, most specifically white males.

Don't talk to me about "discipline". You are really not slick with you racism. You think you are though.

 
Old 05-14-2017, 03:52 PM
 
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The thing is that if you watch the video itself, you can see that he did NOT slam her to the ground. He tripped and both he and the lady were on the cement. Then he did pick her up again and throw her into the pool. There is no excuse for the behavior, but saying he slammed her to the ground is not really truthful. Also, I thought he turned himself in.
Whether he did it on purpose or not the victim was slammed into the ground and then he dragged her over to the pool and threw her in with no apparent concern for her safety.

Giving himself up is not something that deserves praise.
 
Old 05-14-2017, 04:04 PM
 
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A Florida teenager turned himself in to police after a video showing him dragging and throwing a woman into a pool was posted online.

Gutfeld: Horrifying Video Shows Elderly Woman Being Thrown In Pool | Fox News Insider
This is what happens when you assume animals behave like humans.
 
Old 05-14-2017, 04:05 PM
 
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we've already pre-addressed the bolded part of your statement. You want something even more extreme done. Why? did this personally happened to you? He'll get further sentenced. Stop acting like he killed someone or got away with something. This didn't happen to YOU.
If a crime has to be committed against ME for the perpetrator to be fairly punished, nobody would ever be fairly punished. You've stated the guy's 21 day home detention is a fair punishment. I say that's as nutty as those who want him to face significant jail time.
 
Old 05-14-2017, 05:00 PM
 
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And for that matter, blacks are over represented in prison.
No one is over represented in prison. Its not electoral votes. One goes to prison by being convicted of a serious crime. Their demographics are not relevant.
 
Old 05-14-2017, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Thinking that the final punishment should consist of three weeks of being housebound except for school, basketball and church is ridiculous. This is nothing more than grounding the kid - a punishment most good parents dispense for less serious infractions.

He should be placed on probation for a year and be forced to do 50 hours of community service. Perhaps that will teach him to keep his hands to himself.

Also, don't assume people shouldn't care about what happens to other people just because it didn't happen to us. One of the things that makes for good communities is people caring about what happens to others. If you can't find it in your heart to show some compassion for another human being, that's one thing, but trying to demand others be like-minded isn't reasonable.

As for the use of the word horrifying. It has more to do with the big picture and a changed world where there is little to no respect for authority or the elderly. That it would even cross the mind of anyone, particularly a teen, that this is okay....is horrifying. What kind of world is this? If this is no big deal, what will also be considered not a big deal down the road?

Excusing or lessening horrible behavior is nothing but more horrible behavior.
 
Old 05-14-2017, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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The thing is that if you watch the video itself, you can see that he did NOT slam her to the ground. He tripped and both he and the lady were on the cement. Then he did pick her up again and throw her into the pool. There is no excuse for the behavior, but saying he slammed her to the ground is not really truthful. Also, I thought he turned himself in.
C'mon, you're splitting hairs and going out of your way to defend him for not slamming her to the ground! Even if he didn't intentionally slam her to ground, which it's not clear whether he did or didn't, anytime you pick someone up around the pool, there is a good chance someone will get hurt. He was wrong period! No need to nitpick about which of his actions were wrong.
 
Old 05-14-2017, 07:05 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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They sure are! You know what's horrifying?

The current slave trade going on in Africa right now.
Fathers killing their daughters in brutal ways because of "family honor".
Innocent people being mowed down by vehicles, or getting beheaded simply because they were there.
Human trafficking and children being used as sex slaves.
The conditions that some people in this world live in.
The thousands of unknown child abuses happening right now.
The thousands of unknown animal abuses happening right now.
Someone, somewhere, based on history, is being held captive and we won't know for another few years.
The plethora of people who are starving right now.

An old woman being thrown in to the pool is not "horrifying". Come back when you get out of your sheltered world so that you can understand what is actually horrifying and what isn't.
You're right, it's not "horrifying" but the lack of respect constantly being shown in today's world certainly is disgusting.
 
Old 05-14-2017, 07:15 PM
 
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I think a fair punishment would be making him apologize in person to the woman and making him do some amount of community service at a senior center. Hopefully he will become a better person for the experience.
 
Old 05-14-2017, 07:15 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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The thing is that if you watch the video itself, you can see that he did NOT slam her to the ground. He tripped and both he and the lady were on the cement. Then he did pick her up again and throw her into the pool. There is no excuse for the behavior, but saying he slammed her to the ground is not really truthful. Also, I thought he turned himself in.
You left out "and then dragged her...."

If he actually cared that she was a human being, not to mention 52 years his senior, then he would have asked "Are you okay?".. not continue to drag her to the pool and toss her (and her dog) into it.

I do agree that he didn't mean to slam her on the ground and that reporting it was an exaggeration, but he dropped her on concrete and showed no concern about her welfare whatsoever.
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