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View Poll Results: Marijuana prohibition: Who is responsible?
Big Pharma/private prisons 19 35.19%
The Christian Right 4 7.41%
Both equally 31 57.41%
Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-12-2017, 10:46 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Criminalizing marijuana was promoted by J. Edgar Hoover of the FBI with the goal of maintaining the FBI status and oppressing the Negro and other minority populations after alcohol Prohibition was eliminated. Maintaining his ability to blackmail and control most of Congress was even more important to this weird little tyrant.

Poster RADDO also has a valid reason. Western timber industrialists could never compete with Midwestern farmers in producing cellulose so they made Hemp illegal. We could import enough hemp for rope from the same investors near slave plantations in the Philippines.


This problem started a long time before the Kristian right or the deplorable idea of private prisons.

Credit Nixon with giving it Schedule 1 status.

But yeah, it started a long time ago. My Dad grew up on Staten Island where he said some grew wild in some fields, every once in a while men would show up, douse it with kerosene, and burn it. This was late '20s early '30s.
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Old 05-12-2017, 10:48 AM
 
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Most Americans support legalization and an overwhelming majority support at least medical marijuana. Who doesn't? Republicans.

Question is, why? Is it a conspiracy between Big Pharma and the private prison industry? Or, is it the Christian Right's insistence on imposing their morality? Or, do both share equal blame?

I'd guess the alcohol lobby probably figures in there somewhere too.

And as hysterical as it seems to many, the 1936 movie Reefer Madness still has some legs.
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Old 05-12-2017, 10:51 AM
 
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And as hysterical as it seems to many, the 1936 movie Reefer Madness still has some legs.
Yea those withered legs are kicking the bucket on a daily basis at this point though.
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Old 05-12-2017, 11:07 AM
 
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A piece of this puzzle that I consider grossly overlooked is how Medicare Part D prescription costs drop considerably in areas where medical marijuana has been legalized. This isn't a "study", nor is it the opinion of a doctor. It is simply numbers, which can't be manipulated.

Big Pharma has known this for a while, and with the legalization movement now too strong to stop, they stand to lose BIG TIME. The amount of money and other perks available to lawmakers to entice them to keep cannabis demonized is unthinkable. They have billions to protect.

So while the roots of prohibition lay elsewhere, what it has evolved into has become very money-driven.

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The savings, due to lower prescription drug use, were estimated to be $165.2 million in 2013, a year when 17 states and the District of Columbia had implemented medical marijuana laws. The results suggest that if all states had implemented medical marijuana the overall savings to Medicare would have been around $468 million.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0706172022.htm
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Old 05-12-2017, 12:02 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It's decent people who work hard, keep free of poison, and don't want their face eaten off or to be run over by a "toker."
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Old 05-12-2017, 12:11 PM
 
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It's decent people who work hard, keep free of poison, and don't want their face eaten off or to be run over by a "toker."
I guess in the face of hard data that shows how thousands of decent people derive benefits from it by staying off the damaging prescription drugs, that's the best you could come up with.
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Old 05-12-2017, 12:11 PM
 
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It's decent people who work hard, keep free of poison, and don't want their face eaten off or to be run over by a "toker."
lol








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Old 05-12-2017, 12:22 PM
 
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It's decent people who work hard,
Has nothing to do with nothing.


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keep free of poison,
It depends on what you eat and drink on a daily basis. That's where the real poison is put into your system. For most people. The average American diet is terrible.


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and don't want their face eaten off
honestly. I preferred eating Doritos and/or Ben and jerry's phish food.


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or to be run over by a "toker."
Alcohol bro alcohol.


Hey if I could ask. Would you be big on bringing back probation?
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Old 05-12-2017, 12:28 PM
 
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Most Americans support legalization and an overwhelming majority support at least medical marijuana. Who doesn't? Republicans.

Question is, why? Is it a conspiracy between Big Pharma and the private prison industry? Or, is it the Christian Right's insistence on imposing their morality? Or, do both share equal blame?
None of the above, I would say ignorance and a lack of common sense are the reasons it fell under the same category as cocaine and keep it from being handled as is alcohol. Thankfully that is changing state by state and no matter what some in the federal government want it will be legal in all 50 states within the next 5 or so years.
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Old 05-12-2017, 12:31 PM
 
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It's decent people who work hard, keep free of poison, and don't want their face eaten off or to be run over by a "toker."
Wow, a prime example of what I stated. Oh, FYI: no one is going to make you take anything, no one wants to eat your face, and there are already laws governing a vehicle under the influence. Get better educated and stop telling others how to run their lives would be a good start.
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