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Have any surveys or research been put out, directly linking the protests to declining enrollment? If not, should we be making any assumptions such as that? I know that to some people, perception is everything, but....!
The argument that a public school, in these times when tuition, across the board, is expensive, would have declining enrollment, simply due to a political climate! That argument is very interesting....!
From the article: "The university has studied the issue and now sees that it is almost all due to negative publicity since the demonstrations, said Pelema Morrice, vice provost for enrollment."
Not sure what the intent and attitude of you posters are. Are you saying that because the campus "gave in to demands" that the students no longer want to enroll there.....
If so, that is contradictory to the article posted by shadowne, which showed that black student population decreased and the white students interviewed (one was Jewish) said that they either didn't want to be seen as a "bigot" or that they felt, like the black students that they would not be comfortable there due to racial tension and the whole swastika in feces thing that occurred. It is minority and more liberally minded students not wanting to attend, it has nothing to do with the conservative belief that the university "gave in to demands."
I do believe that the negative publicity is the main factor in the decrease in enrollment and their financial situation; however, the lack of handling the issues before they got into the media is to blame not the university giving in "to demands." They should have addressed those issues before students had to demand anything. Colleges deal with similar situations every day of the year across this country. Those universities don't get to the level of what occurred at Mizzou because they engage the students affected and they take swift action to combat any perceived bigotry or acts of discrimination and/or racism.
So the lesson here is listen to your students. If they say there is an issue of bigotry on campus, take care of it immediately before they go on youtube or call in the media and give you some extremely negative press.
Conservatives believe Liberal College is bad for America.
You left out that 1 word.
Texas is Red and our colleges are booming.
so basically any opposing views are bad and should be repressed...got it- sounds very American...
I assume the liberal states of Massachusetts must be doing terribly then by your logic, however it contains two of prob the 5 best universities in the world.....
Not sure what the intent and attitude of you posters are. Are you saying that because the campus "gave in to demands" that the students no longer want to enroll there.....
If so, that is contradictory to the article posted by shadowne, which showed that black student population decreased and the white students interviewed (one was Jewish) said that they either didn't want to be seen as a "bigot" or that they felt, like the black students that they would not be comfortable there due to racial tension and the whole swastika in feces thing that occurred. It is minority and more liberally minded students not wanting to attend, it has nothing to do with the conservative belief that the university "gave in to demands."
I do believe that the negative publicity is the main factor in the decrease in enrollment and their financial situation; however, the lack of handling the issues before they got into the media is to blame not the university giving in "to demands." They should have addressed those issues before students had to demand anything. Colleges deal with similar situations every day of the year across this country. Those universities don't get to the level of what occurred at Mizzou because they engage the students affected and they take swift action to combat any perceived bigotry or acts of discrimination and/or racism.
So the lesson here is listen to your students. If they say there is an issue of bigotry on campus, take care of it immediately before they go on youtube or call in the media and give you some extremely negative press.
So the lesson is actually not what many in this thread think the lesson should be?
Last edited by HockeyMac18; 07-14-2017 at 03:50 PM..
Not sure what the intent and attitude of you posters are. Are you saying that because the campus "gave in to demands" that the students no longer want to enroll there.....
If so, that is contradictory to the article posted by shadowne, which showed that black student population decreased and the white students interviewed (one was Jewish) said that they either didn't want to be seen as a "bigot" or that they felt, like the black students that they would not be comfortable there due to racial tension and the whole swastika in feces thing that occurred. It is minority and more liberally minded students not wanting to attend, it has nothing to do with the conservative belief that the university "gave in to demands."
I do believe that the negative publicity is the main factor in the decrease in enrollment and their financial situation; however, the lack of handling the issues before they got into the media is to blame not the university giving in "to demands." They should have addressed those issues before students had to demand anything. Colleges deal with similar situations every day of the year across this country. Those universities don't get to the level of what occurred at Mizzou because they engage the students affected and they take swift action to combat any perceived bigotry or acts of discrimination and/or racism.
So the lesson here is listen to your students. If they say there is an issue of bigotry on campus, take care of it immediately before they go on youtube or call in the media and give you some extremely negative press.
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Originally Posted by HockeyMac18
So the lesson is actually not what many in this thread think the lesson should be.
From the article: "Students of all races have shunned Missouri, but the drop in freshman enrollment last fall was strikingly higher among blacks at 42 percent, than among whites, at 21 percent."
"Black students were already a small minority. They made up 10 percent of the freshman class in 2012, a proportion that fell to just 6 percent last fall. "
The white student population also decreased. I'm not sure why you intentionally left that part out. The decrease in black students had a far lesser impact on the school than the decrease in white students.
I wonder what the enrollment rates are for Berkeley. I'm sure they're riding on their reputation as a top tier university, but I'd love to see the numbers of incoming freshmen for 2017-18 compared to 2016-17.
2017-2018 Freshman: 15,500 admitted out of 85,000 applicants - 18.3% acceptance rate
2016-2017 Freshman: 14,400 admitted out of 82,000 applicants - 17.5% acceptance rate
About 7,000 actually accept with a yield rate of under 50%.
International applications to Berkeley were down about 1% this last round. Applications from Mexico dropped 30% while applications from Muslim countries were down about 10%. The last time that happened was after 9/11 and over the past 10 years, international applications were up about 25% every year.
Colleges need those international students. They are full pay and the most profitable for the universities.
You have to be a brain to get into Georgia Tech, because they don't have affirmative action requirements in admissions. They want the best, not diversity.
You won't see safe spaces and demographically segregated dorms there.
You are right -- my sonds roomed with all kinds of religions.....and learned so much. A great opportunity. It's such a great school.
Why is there so much focus on the University of Missouri?
No offense - but who cares?
Gruber was right......
You must have a short memory.
"we need some muscle over here!"
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