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Old 05-19-2017, 05:09 PM
 
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American citizens have always bickered and fought. They even fought each other in a civil war. By the looks of things, Americans have been very civil and orderly, compared to other times in our history.

Liberals are just drama queens.
You quote me, but apparently did not read me. I said as much. Even some of the more responsible Republicans acknowledge there is a constitutional crisis brewing.

Drama queen, no. Conservatives have to stop acting as though their national symbol is the ostrich.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Dixie
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NEVER have we had a President like this. We are in uncharted territory as a nation and we are headed into a real test of our democracy and the resilience of our Constitution.

I will be interested to see what the history books say 30 years from now about the 2016 election and Donald Trump's short Presidency. I think he will be only the third President to not even last a year. He will likely pass up Buchanan as the indisputable worst President in history.
Why do we have to wait for the history books 30 years from now when we can read the million Trump threads here and get the "real" story from the left ?
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:15 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Why do we have to wait for the history books 30 years from now when we can read the million Trump threads here and get the "real" story from the left ?
It takes time to judge Presidents from a historical perspective. For instance, I think George W. Bush will be judged more favorably with time. He will still be in the bottom third but definitely not the worst.

Donald Trump, I believe, will be judged as the worst President in history nearly unanimously.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Dixie
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It takes time to judge Presidents from a historical perspective. For instance, I think George W. Bush will be judged more favorably with time. He will still be in the bottom third but definitely not the worst.

Donald Trump, I believe, will be judged as the worst President in history nearly unanimously.
Good thing you said "I believe" as you really have no clue.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:21 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Good thing you said "I believe" as you really have no clue.
I know, I know, the great Donald is anointed by God and is the bestest leader ever!! Make America Great Again!!! Toss me a Bud Light...
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Dixie
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I know, I know, the great Donald is anointed by God and is the bestest leader ever!! Make America Great Again!!! Toss me a Bud Light...
Repeat after me ... there is no correct answer to who are the best and worst Presidents ever.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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You quote me, but apparently did not read me. I said as much. Even some of the more responsible Republicans acknowledge there is a constitutional crisis brewing.

Drama queen, no. Conservatives have to stop acting as though their national symbol is the ostrich.
Yes, I read what you wrote. You basically labelled all Trump supporters as traitors and friends of our nation's enemies. If that makes you feel good about yourself, and who you voted for, that's fine. But it doesn't mean your opinions are the same as facts.

The fact is, DJT is your president, thanks largely in part to the corruption of the DNC, and their decision to front a truly deplorable human being. How short sighted...

Thankfully, this is nowhere near a crisis. And this nation has seen enough crisis to know. Did I mention we once fought a civil war? A little over 1/2 million Americans lost their lives in that war, all at their own hands. That is what a crisis looks like. Stop being a drama queen.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:32 PM
 
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Yes, I read what you wrote. You basically labelled all Trump supporters as traitors and friends of our nation's enemies. If that makes you feel good about yourself, and who you voted for, that's fine. But it doesn't mean your opinions are the same as facts.

The fact is, DJT is your president, thanks largely in part to the corruption of the DNC, and their decision to front a truly deplorable human being. How short sighted...

Thankfully, this is nowhere near a crisis. And this nation has seen enough crisis to know. Did I mention we once fought a civil war? A little over 1/2 million Americans lost their lives in that war. That is what a crisis looks like. Stop being a drama queen.

So, a crisis in your definition is nothing less than a civil war? That is a odd definition. To not define foreign interference in our election, collusion of members of the Trump administration with a foreign adversary, and, a PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES who gives classified information to that political adversary, as a crisis is at best naïve and at worse dangerous.

You need to open your eyes.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I think Crazy Earl said it best in Full Metal Jacket.

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These are great days we're living, bros. We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns. These people we wasted here today are the finest human beings we will ever know. After we rotate back to the world, we're gonna miss not having anyone around that's worth shooting.
Crazy Earl
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:34 PM
 
Location: United States
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NEVER have we had a President like this. We are in uncharted territory as a nation and we are headed into a real test of our democracy and the resilience of our Constitution.

I will be interested to see what the history books say 30 years from now about the 2016 election and Donald Trump's short Presidency. I think he will be only the third President to not even last a year. He will likely pass up Buchanan as the indisputable worst President in history.

We've had presidents like this before, Kennedy, Nixon, and Reagan were the last ones. What they all had in common with Trump is that they were not trusted by the establishment because they weren't establishment yes man.

Two of the three were shot, the other was forced out.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Trump.
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