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Birth control pills should be available without prescription. Why didn't Obama simply get that done while he was in office? You know Trump isn't going to do it. They should be as inexpensive to use as Nexium or other PPIs are.
Because the Rep's opposed him at every opportunity from accomplishing anything like that. You haven't been keeping up. The christian radicals who believe birth control causes *GASP!* the sin of fornication would never allow free BC to pass.
"Defunding" Planned Parenthood should mean that the federal government provides no funds to Planned Parenthood and cannot tell it what to do or not do with its own funds.
In my opinion, The federal government has no business providing taxpayer funds to a private organization like Planned Parenthood.
I never said PP never did good things for poor women.
Your point does contradict because your "opinion" is based on the false premise that the government is just giving PP money as funding.
In the real world, "defunding" Planned Parenthood is a misnomer.
How funding actually works: Medicaid Patient A received pap smear. Planned Parenthood bills Medicaid (government) for that Pap Smear. Planned Parenthood gets paid.
So "defunding" is nothing more than saying that Planned Parenthood cannot bill Medicaid nor receive funds for services rendered to patients with Medicaid. Ergo, Medicaid patients and those covered for services under Title X have to either pay out of pocket or seek a new provider.
All "defunding" does is force patients to find a new provider.
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Originally Posted by Dbones
There are a ton more places to go..PP isn't the only place. I don't know a single female that has EVER gone to PP.
Plenty of females on this board have claimed to use PP's services.
Hi. I'm a female and I've been using Planned Parenthood since I was 16 to get my pap smears done.
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Originally Posted by stockwiz
Birth control pills should be available without prescription. Why didn't Obama simply get that done while he was in office? You know Trump isn't going to do it. They should be as inexpensive to use as Nexium or other PPIs are.
Perhaps when we are able to tell if a given birth control option is actually being effective for a given person. Right now, the only test of "is it working" is when it fails and suddenly there's a baby. Ergo, making it an OTC medication would probably lead to some hefty "false advertising" lawsuits.
There are also a huge variety of side effects up to and including death from blood clots. Some of this stuff should really be talked about with a doctor.
The thing is that you should not be allowed to end a unique human life just because it is an inconvenience to you. If that's the case, anyone who needs help to survive should be subject to death at the whim of his or her provider.
I never knew you liberals were such extreme social Darwinists. I guess you'll be whatever you have to be in order to preserve the "right" to make poor decisions and kill your unborn children. Sad.
women like men have a right to control their own lives how they see fit. we also have the right to privacy. our medical choices are ours, it isn't a collective decision made by the opinions of strangers.
anyone who needs help to "survive" can be helped by anyone who wants the job of doing so. not true with pregnancy, that is on no one but the woman herself. she has the right to choice. end of story. not your business or mine. only hers.
No, what's ignorant is to think that PP is the only place to go. There isn't even one around where I live and the poor baby making machines seem to make out just fine.
Yes there are other health care providers, the only thing ignorant is to think that making it more difficult for poor women to receive health care will accomplish anything. You could close every PP clinic and abortions would still occur, probably more so, so what is the goal.
In the real world, pregnancy and delivery is not ten minutes of pain. In the real world, pregnancy and delivery can have permanent side effects, including death.
Oh is that what they were trying to say? The weird stuff about extending a month and maybe 100 years didn't really make any sense at all.
With my pregnancies, around halfway through I get a condition where it's incredibly painful to walk because of my hips loosening up too much. Even sitting can be painful because, with the slightest shift by accident, it triggers some pain. Can continue for a few weeks even after the baby comes until the hormones go away. Some people even end up on crutches/wheelchairs/etc.
That's in addition to the other regular complaints, though thankfully I never had much morning sickness.
I was induced both times and it took a sorta "short" (by labor standards) 12 hours to happen each time.
I'm not trying to excuse abortions; I think they're sad and horrible, etc. Just trying to clarify what even just a moderate pregnancy is like to make a more realistic picture in conjunction with that comment. That's not to mention how much your everyday life and options change with a kid.
I am reluctantly mildly pro-choice simply because outlawing them will not make them go away and just cause other problems to also crop up. Work on education, birth control, adoption options, etc.
Birth control pills should be available without prescription. Why didn't Obama simply get that done while he was in office? You know Trump isn't going to do it. They should be as inexpensive to use as Nexium or other PPIs are.
This is something I disagree with. Having a prescription is important because you really have no idea how BC will affect your health. Some women have bad reactions to certain types of BC.
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On a different note, adoption is not a reasonable response to "I'm pregnant and I don't want to be". Someone who doesn't want a baby likely doesn't want to be pregnant either.
The current system works fine. If you need an abortion, go have one. If you don't want an abortion, don't have one. Seems pretty simple.
Only 2 of the "clinics" are in "rural" areas. One has 10k people and other has 27k people. The rest are in massive cities....I HIGHLY DOUBT in a city of 10k and one of 27k there aren't other doctor offices that accept medicaid for REAL medical female issues like pregnancy...now if they want baby murder then they can enjoy going to the big city to do it.
Medicaid is being slashed, though, per the new budget that's proposed. Fewer people will have insurance, and the insurance some will have, will cover less. In some cities, many doctors are already refusing to accept Medicaid patients. That's why free clinics are needed.
Am I right to assume that most of the posters here are too old to reproduce so access to birth control means nothing to them?
That doesn't mean that birth control never meant anything to them, but we aren't talking birth control as PP could have remained open providing women's health services which included birth control, but they insisted on stopping the beating heart of the pre-born, and even PP agreed that abortion stopped a beating heart! You can get birth control at the grocery store, big box store, drug store, numerous websites and those on Medicaid and some other insurance plans provide that to include sterilization for those that do not want to have children or additional children.
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I'm not no. Why do you assume most here are?
It was an odd question.
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Originally Posted by Drewcifer
Because this forum is full of crazy far right wingers and crazy right wingers tend to be old.
And crazy left wingers tend to be young or 70+.
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Outside of direct self defense, I do not believe anyone has a right to take the life of another.
Be it abortion, death penalty or unjust wars. I'm not sure if that is a crazy right wing position or not? What do you think?
Agree. Respect for the lives of all and preserving them should be a human position.
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Access to birth control? That's not what Planned Parenthood is about and you know it.
A condom can be purchased for under a dollar. You can buy them at most gas stations.
A 30 day supply of birth control pills can be purchased at both Walmart and Target for 9 dollars.
There is no problem with access to birth control.
Exactly. And, again, PP wouldn't give up the abortion business feeling that was more critical than actually offering women's health service, which doesn't include ripping a baby from their womb! Birth control starts before conception.
In past decades, couples were able to control the size of their families without abortion, of course, they weren't having drunk and drugged sex which I suspect is a big problem.
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