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Old 05-30-2017, 04:20 PM
 
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Show some proof, and please you pro-lifers dont give a damn about the "baby" your just a bunch of control freaks well spout bible verse meanwhile your Happy about cutting any programs that actually help the new mother. Your hypocrites and are truly disgusting human beings so please enough with the bs
I've long supported public assistance programs.
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Old 05-30-2017, 04:22 PM
 
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Show some proof, and please you pro-lifers dont give a damn about the "baby" your just a bunch of control freaks well spout bible verse meanwhile your Happy about cutting any programs that actually help the new mother. Your hypocrites and are truly disgusting human beings so please enough with the bs
At a point before birth, they are undelivered babies. That is an absolute fact backed by science.

They deserve protections as they reach development milestones.
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Old 05-30-2017, 04:24 PM
 
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Show some proof, and please you pro-lifers dont give a damn about the "baby" your just a bunch of control freaks well spout bible verse meanwhile your Happy about cutting any programs that actually help the new mother. Your hypocrites and are truly disgusting human beings so please enough with the bs
Plenty of proof just google it. Me and my wife used WIC and still use WIC so no not against any programs that help. I am also NOT a christian of any stripe. In fact I am in full support of paid maternity leave as well. When it comes to most social programs I am in the mold of most Western European countries.
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Old 05-30-2017, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Yeah, but you need a prescription for that 30-day supply of birth control pills. Planned Parenthood helps women get those prescriptions. And Planned Parenthood helps women get the other medical services that women require. Planned Parenthood tests both women and men for STD's, and other health problems. They refer women to other doctors to get reduced-cost services. They are a life-saver for many women.
Any doctor can help get a prescription for the pill. And you can get them without a prescription right here:

https://www.birthcontrolwithoutprescription.com/

And doctors can do all the other things PP does.

And you DON'T need a prescription for condoms, IUDs, contraceptive gel, contraceptive foam, contraceptive sponges, contraceptive film, etc...

I'm not saying that PP hasn't benefited some women. Surely they have. But they are nowhere near as essential as their supporters make them out to be.
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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According to the article in the OP, surrounding clinics are skeptical about being able to absorb the 15,000 patients previously seen at PP. Until it can be shown that these other clinics can handle the extra patients within a reasonable distance and appointment scheduling times... this is not "fantastic" by a long shot.
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Look what happened in Texas after they tried the same thing.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...linics-funding
No this did not work out in Texas and I don't see this ending well, closing health care clinics for those living on the edge accomplishes nothing and makes their lives more difficult. They don't seem to care.


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Outside of direct self defense, I do not believe anyone has a right to take the life of another.

Be it abortion, death penalty or unjust wars. I'm not sure if that is a crazy right wing position or not? What do you think?
This has nothing to do with abortion, this is closing health care clinics.
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:13 PM
 
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This has nothing to do with abortion, this is closing health care clinics.
Don't close them.
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Gone
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/planned-p...182349141.html

Bye! This should give doctors who actually take care of women and babies a chance to open offices in the areas! Good news.
Actually all kinds of clinics are closing all over the Midwest, with no jobs, no insurance and no clinics, the Midwest is going to empty out, not good news for the GOP.
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Old 05-30-2017, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Don't close them.

This is ideology gone mad.


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The Iowa closures are a direct result of a new state law that blocks Medicaid patients from getting their health care at Planned Parenthood or other providers that offer abortions ― all of which is very similar to what has been called for under the Obamacare repeal
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Old 05-30-2017, 06:12 PM
 
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This is ideology gone mad.
It would take very little to get the funding back. P.P. claims to not be in the abortion business anyway. Just make it official.
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Old 05-30-2017, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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It would take very little to get the funding back. P.P. claims to not be in the abortion business anyway. Just make it official.
They like the fact that PP performs abortions so they cut funding for their family planning, please explain the logic.


This is not far off the AHCA discussion, these people don't give a rats rear end about health care. Someone needs to explain what this accomplishes because it sure doesn't prevent abortions and more than likely creates more unwanted pregnancies.
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