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It doesn't take a white person to make these observations regarding this so-called "police debate".
All of these things are readily observable by anyone who pays attention.
I happen to be a white guy, and I think your observations are highly flawed.
The vast majority of black men do not commit violent crimes. They should not be treated as if they might simply due to the color of their skin.
Lets face it. In the really bad, black neighborhoods, children see shootings constantly. They see drug deals constantly. They see their older siblings, parents and grandparents if there are any, using/selling drugs and carrying guns. It becomes normal to them. They think it is the natural way to live. They are not surprised at gang shootings, they happen almost daily. They learn to make it, they must join a gang. And the cycle continues.
I am a big guy and I carried a gun. And I will admit when I worked in those neighborhoods, I was afraid.
what does this have to do with a Philando Castille situation? Is it philando Castille responsibility to stop all black crime. How come nobody brings up white-on-white crime when an unarmed white person is killed by cops? Do you believe it's okay to shoot someone and say "well i shot him because some other people he doesn't know committed a crime"?
Lets face it. In the really bad, black neighborhoods, children see shootings constantly. They see drug deals constantly. They see their older siblings, parents and grandparents if there are any, using/selling drugs and carrying guns. It becomes normal to them. They think it is the natural way to live. They are not surprised at gang shootings, they happen almost daily. They learn to make it, they must join a gang. And the cycle continues.
I am a big guy and I carried a gun. And I will admit when I worked in those neighborhoods, I was afraid.
i grew up in "bad black neighborhoods" and none of the crime was constant. Despite what you see on your hollywood based opinion. I saw vastly more drug usage at the 90%+ white collegei attened. Like shockingly more drug usage and with hard drugs not just weed. And with that said, i saw very little police presence. That's the difference between white and black crime rates. Blacks are overpoliced and the police basically go looking for any and every little thing. They don't do that to white neighborhoods. It's safe to say that many on the right have this fantasy of black neighborhoods being like mad max. Sure murder rates are disproportionately high, but much of that has to do with the context of black american history...which many of you choose to ignore. You intentionally keep people poor and over policed, they are going to have more problems. I'm sure you won't address anything i just typed though...you'll just post a chart or something right?
i grew up in "bad black neighborhoods" and none of the crime was constant. Despite what you see on your hollywood based opinion. I saw vastly more drug usage at the 90%+ white collegei attened. Like shockingly more drug usage and with hard drugs not just weed. And with that said, i saw very little police presence. That's the difference between white and black crime rates. Blacks are overpoliced and the police basically go looking for any and every little thing. They don't do that to white neighborhoods. It's safe to say that many on the right have this fantasy of black neighborhoods being like mad max. Sure murder rates are disproportionately high, but much of that has to do with the context of black american history...which many of you choose to ignore. You intentionally keep people poor and over policed, they are going to have more problems. I'm sure you won't address anything i just typed though...you'll just post a chart or something right?
So too many cops in your neighborhood make you do a drive-by in a neighborhood with kids playing outside? You are poor so you need to shoot someone? Millions of poor people of all colors manage to not shoot anyone every day.
Last edited by redwood66; 06-17-2017 at 05:27 PM..
i grew up in "bad black neighborhoods" and none of the crime was constant. Despite what you see on your hollywood based opinion. I saw vastly more drug usage at the 90%+ white collegei attened. Like shockingly more drug usage and with hard drugs not just weed. And with that said, i saw very little police presence. That's the difference between white and black crime rates. Blacks are overpoliced and the police basically go looking for any and every little thing. They don't do that to white neighborhoods. It's safe to say that many on the right have this fantasy of black neighborhoods being like mad max. Sure murder rates are disproportionately high, but much of that has to do with the context of black american history...which many of you choose to ignore. You intentionally keep people poor and over policed, they are going to have more problems. I'm sure you won't address anything i just typed though...you'll just post a chart or something right?
Mine is not a "Hollywood based opinion". I worked on houses and apts, in those neighborhoods for years. The crime and shootings were constant. In the housing, there would be a drug dealer on every floor. They had good schools but most dropped out. Rent was free for the majority. We always quit early because it was dangerous for anyone to be out after dark. When we pulled the carpet off the stairs, the needles would fall out. I quit when I went to pick up carpet at a store in the neighborhood and the owner had been beaten to death overnight.
The post office would no longer deliver mail there. An ambulance had a police escort.
Blacks commit most of the violent crimes and "street" crimes, hence they generally get more police attention.
Blacks are like 13-15% of the overall population, but commit over 50% of all the violent crimes and murders.
Where there is crime there will be police attention, police activity, police presence, etc.... duh.
Anyone else see it as that black and white?? Really doesn't have anything to do with "racism".
It all seems so simple to me: just don't commit crimes, don't do drugs, don't hang out in shady areas, don't hang out with shady people, don't hang out with low-class/ghetto people and you won't draw the attention of the cops
I think I've only encountered a police officer in person like 3 times in my life, all of them were minor traffic stops, and they were all over in under 15 minutes. I've never been arrested or in jail, even for a day.
It's sooooooooo simple
Flawed logic. Yes, blacks are over represented in the criminal justice system. And yes, they get more police attention. However, this is a classic "Which came first, the chicken or the egg? scenario. Are blacks more often convicted of crimes because they actually commit more crimes or are they convicted of more crimes because of police/criminal justice system bias? You can't use statistics from a biased system to proved the system isn't biased.
Furthermore, have social/economic facts been accounted for? Geographic location?
It is simple....if you approach it logically, which you failed to do.
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