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This is silly, it's the job of the courts to decide whether to convict or not, its the job of the persecutor to decide whether or not to persecute. Bottom line is if I say no stop then stop otherwise you are assaulting me, if you are penetrating me then you are raping me, it's really simple.
If you initially say yes and your partner starts trying to pull off all sorts of kinky stuff you're not into you think you shouldn't have the right to say stop it?
This is silly, it's the job of the courts to decide whether to convict or not, its the job of the persecutor to decide whether or not to persecute. Bottom line is if I say no stop then stop otherwise you are assaulting me, if you are penetrating me then you are raping me, it's really simple.
Asking the act to stop and having it continue sounds like sexual assault, but once someone has consented to sex and are involved in the act, asking them to stop is not rape. Looking at the definition of rape, consent to sexual activity was given freely, so I am not seeing asking the act to stop the act in progress as rape.
The more I think about it, the more wrong it seems. Changing your mind unless it becomes sexual assault during the act would make it awfully easy to nail someone with a rape charge, just "because".
I do wonder why this is only about women legally revoking consent, as it could easily apply to males also, along with any number of "variations" in today's world.
Last edited by AnywhereElse; 06-24-2017 at 10:12 AM..
What would prevent someone from straight up lying to obtain consent then show his or her true colors during the act?
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Originally Posted by ReineDeCoeur
What exactly do you mean?
For example, a guy tells you he's a terrific lover. You're hesitant as quite often those who claim to be terrific lovers are actually pretty terrible at it.
But he sees friendly enough, so you give it a go.
Sadly, he's inept, inexperienced, and inconsiderate.
You go for it for a while but finally decide he was lying and call the whole thing off.
For example, a guy tells you he's a terrific lover. You're hesitant as quite often those who claim to be terrific lovers are actually pretty terrible at it.
But he sees friendly enough, so you give it a go.
Sadly, he's inept, inexperienced, and inconsiderate.
You go for it for a while but finally decide he was lying and call the whole thing off.
Based on that description around 99.99% of extra-marital, not for profit sex is covered, and applies to both genders equally.
Asking the act to stop and having it continue sounds like sexual assault, but once someone has consented to sex and are involved in the act, asking them to stop is not rape. Looking at the definition of rape, consent to sexual activity was given freely, so I am not seeing asking the act to stop the act in progress as rape.
The more I think about it, the more wrong it seems. Changing your mind unless it becomes sexual assault during the act would make it awfully easy to nail someone with a rape charge, just "because".
I do wonder why this is only about women legally revoking consent, as it could easily apply to males also, along with any number of "variations" in today's world.
No, it is rape. Say you give consent, sex starts, one partner decides they want to liven things up and do something that you don't like so you tell them to stop, but they carry on - the moment they carry on after you tell them to stop, they are raping you. To say that it is not rape gives them the green light to do whatever they want short of causing physical harm (as then it would be assault and something different) once they received initial consent to sex.
If you initially say yes and your partner starts trying to pull off all sorts of kinky stuff you're not into you think you shouldn't have the right to say stop it?
Why are people making up all these "valid" reasons to withdraw consent?
There doesn't need to be any logical or valid reason.
Change of mind for any or no reason is all that is required from either party. End of story.
Based on that description around 99.99% of extra-marital, not for profit sex is covered, and applies to both genders equally.
I imagine it could apply to both genders, I can't recall ever hearing of any man revoking consent in the middle of matters, and have no personal experience in the matter, so I'm unable to speak to that.
I can't believe this is still even being discussed, let alone 20 a holes that support non consensual sex.
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