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Old 07-01-2017, 04:38 PM
 
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I'm amazed that after all these years on this board together, you clearly don't know the first thing about me. Most of my time in Europe is spent in Western Europe. France, Switzerland, England, Italy, etc.

As to sipping Budweiser, I think the last time I drank Budweiser was at a college frat party 25 years ago.

Quality of life is rather subjective, but as I am sitting here on the deck of my oceanfront summer home in The Hamptons, typing this while looking out at the waves, I would suggest that perhaps it is YOU that has no idea of what "quality of life" means.

As to dinner at the "Golden Corral", whatever that is, tonight I have an early reservation at the 1770 House in East Hampton, followed by Jay Leno doing stand up comedy for a very small audience at Guild Hall.
Ahhhh... summering in the Hamptons. That TOTALLY explains quality of life. SMH
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Old 07-02-2017, 04:38 AM
 
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Ahhhh... summering in the Hamptons. That TOTALLY explains quality of life. SMH
You choose to comment on the one line that was tongue I cheek? You don't think that a little bit of gloating was warranted by your post?

I judge my quality of life by the happiness of my family. If they are happy, I am happy, and my quality of life is good. And sure, the fact that the biggest decision my kids will have to make today is whether to swim in the ocean or the pool, certainly helps with that, but that is only part of it.
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Old 07-02-2017, 07:02 AM
 
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You choose to comment on the one line that was tongue I cheek? You don't think that a little bit of gloating was warranted by your post?

I judge my quality of life by the happiness of my family. If they are happy, I am happy, and my quality of life is good. And sure, the fact that the biggest decision my kids will have to make today is whether to swim in the ocean or the pool, certainly helps with that, but that is only part of it.
The Masai are happy living in huts while tending their cattle. Does that mean that their quality of life is better than yours? Well, maybe.

And that's my point. It ain't about your pad in the Hamptons. The Hamptons have a ton of unhappy people that probably live there year round.

As far as your gloating, I mean, I'm not impressed anyway. I get to live in Southern Arizona year round. That's what I calll quality of life.
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Old 07-02-2017, 07:28 AM
 
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A warning to Europe:


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Old 07-02-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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The Masai are happy living in huts while tending their cattle. Does that mean that their quality of life is better than yours? Well, maybe.

And that's my point. It ain't about your pad in the Hamptons. The Hamptons have a ton of unhappy people that probably live there year round.

As far as your gloating, I mean, I'm not impressed anyway. I get to live in Southern Arizona year round. That's what I calll quality of life.
And I would want to shoot myself. That's what I meant when I said that quality-of-life is subjective.
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Old 07-02-2017, 02:04 PM
 
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And I would want to shoot myself. That's what I meant when I said that quality-of-life is subjective.
So why did you say that quality of life is better in the US as if its subjective then you cannot say that - you can only say where its best for you.
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Old 07-02-2017, 02:26 PM
 
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So why did you say that quality of life is better in the US as if its subjective then you cannot say that - you can only say where its best for you.
Because in my view, it is. So when I was responding to a poster who insisted quality of life is better in these other countries, I was offering a counterpoint. At least I admit that it is a subjective measure. I doubt you will get that much from the other poster.

Some economists would have you believe that you can quantify quality of life in different countries, but they combine mostly subjective data with some objective data. This is not really science. At best, it is soft science and at worst pseudoscience. This type of "scientific study" would be unacceptable in medicine.
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Old 07-02-2017, 05:24 PM
 
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If this is a ploy to "Make America White Again", I've got news for you: The average white European birth rate is something like 1.5 continent wide. It's even lower actually in more socially conservative Eastern Europe. And as a fiscal conservative I don't think importing millions of people used to social democracy and it's inherent entitlements is a philosophically sound idea. I don't care what color America looks like in the future as long as it's free.

Also, in the long run, asking Europeans to abandon Europe to create some ayran utopia here is a geo-politically bad move. Either Russia or the Caliphate would take over then have unfettered access to the Atlantic and tons of fertile land/industrial capacity. You'll be creating the extinction of European culture as well.
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Old 07-02-2017, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Why would they leave a place with a higher quality of life for a lower standard?
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Old 07-03-2017, 03:30 AM
 
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Because in my view, it is. So when I was responding to a poster who insisted quality of life is better in these other countries, I was offering a counterpoint. At least I admit that it is a subjective measure. I doubt you will get that much from the other poster.

Some economists would have you believe that you can quantify quality of life in different countries, but they combine mostly subjective data with some objective data. This is not really science. At best, it is soft science and at worst pseudoscience. This type of "scientific study" would be unacceptable in medicine.
There are certain objective factors that contribute to quality of life like access to healthcare, education, amount of free time (so work/life balance) available, and quality of the environment that can be assessed to get an idea of the basic quality of life level in a country that further subjective factors add on to. The US, by those factors, falls behind and while this means that on a basic objective level the US has a lower quality of life that doesn't mean that additional subjective factors can't increase that quality for individuals so it surpasses elsewhere, but it does mean that for the average person you can safely say that quality of life is not better in the US compared to certain countries that fair better on those objective factors.
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