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Sorry, under Federal Civil Rights Law, LGBT is not a protected class. Employers can discriminate. So can businesses. So can landlords. This has been true in federal case after federal case. If the gay couple sued under the premise of discrimination, they'll lose. The baker's First Amendment Right will prevail.
I think the cake shop owners offered to provide the wedding cake but for the gay couple to put their own decoration atop the cake. The gay couple refused the offer and wanted the bake shop to place the ornament. Why? Because the gay activist couple had targeted a known Christian bakery to harass them and make their point for their own reasons
That in itself should make this case an interesting argument in court
I'd like to see them try this with a Muslim bakery. I seen a video where a gay couple went to a Muslim district to try and get a wedding cake baked, and they were refused and nothing happened.
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Sorry, under Federal Civil Rights Law, LGBT is not a protected class. Employers can discriminate. So can businesses. So can landlords. This has been true in federal case after federal case. If the gay couple sued under the premise of discrimination, they'll lose. The baker's First Amendment Right will prevail.
You are arguing the Appeal to Consequences fallacy. " there are other stores to service you, therefore no one is hurt"
arguing that it is an inconvenience rather because it does not physically harm a person, in no way makes it ok
Exactly. And the fact that the baker took their money many times before and had no problem with their dollar bills before their wedding cake request makes it even worse.
You are arguing the Appeal to Consequences fallacy. " there are other stores to service you, therefore no one is hurt"
arguing that it is an inconvenience rather because it does not physically harm a person, in no way makes it ok.
It did when SCOTUS ruled in favor of Hobby Lobby, et al. In fact, the ruling was based on the fact that the denial of a legally required but religiously objectionable provision is OK if there are other means to acquire such provisions.
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It did when SCOTUS ruled in favor of Hobby Lobby, et al. In fact, the ruling was based on the fact that the denial of a legally required but religiously objectionable provision is OK if there are other means to acquire such provisions.
You continuing to argue the Hobby Lobby case as if it was a service to the public when in reality it was a benefit to employees.
You continuing to argue the Hobby Lobby case as if it was a service to the public when in reality it was a benefit to employees.
Who are members of the public.
Again, three things in favor of the baker:
1) LGBT is not a Federally protected class.
2) The First Amendment guarantees the Right to exercise one's religion.
3) SCOTUS ruled in favor of HL because what was legally required but they declined to provide due to religious objection was readily available elsewhere.
Were our Founders and Framers of the Constitution "closed minded?"
"Large number of customers?" How many "gay" "couples" is one bakery likely to see? Not that many, would be my guess. These business that were involved in these suits were specifically targeted. It was no accident.
Yep, I agree. Just like these two recent episodes.
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