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Old 06-27-2017, 08:45 AM
 
Location: FL
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Thank Obama for Obamacare after Clinton started it years ago.

Nothing has to be done for Obamacare to implode which might actually be the best solution at this point.

Then we can go back to our lower premium and lower deductibles.

That should stop the left from bashing
I bet you never realized that health insurance rates were going up every year way before Obama was even heard of.

What the Republicans came up with will make it much less affordable than Obamacare.
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Old 06-27-2017, 08:47 AM
 
Location: FL
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Total repeal is the only option.
Single payer is the only option.
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Old 06-27-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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Loose your job which had Healthcare, go on cobra (no one can afford it without another job) find new job (Tcare does not require business to have health Benefits). Try to buy Healthcare (if you have a pre-existing condition forget it) when you do not have coverage you get to wait 6 months. So the GOP has figured out how to kill off a whole bunch of people.
Sounds pretty much like the same ol' Obamacare.
Only employers with 50+ employees are required to provide health coverage. Try to buy healthcare--Market CLOSED!
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Old 06-27-2017, 08:53 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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So... if you cannot afford healthcare you will be penalized?
Tax cuts for the wealthy and the poor get hammered again...nice.
Sounds pretty much like Obamacare. What's the point of replacing something that is evil, wrong, and unconstitutional with something that is evil, wrong, and unconstitutional?
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Old 06-27-2017, 08:55 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Single payer is the only option.
No, it is not. Getting the ******* government's hands out of my healthcare choices is the only option.
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Old 06-27-2017, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Thank Obama for Obamacare after Clinton started it years ago.
Nothing has to be done for Obamacare to implode which might actually be the best solution at this point.
Then we can go back to our lower premium and lower deductibles.
That should stop the left from bashing
what a joke. Republicans have done everything they could to sabotage the ACA and make it fail, insurers are leaving markets because of uncertainty and the fact that their loss ratio exceeded their expectations. Money was in the ACA to keep providers in the market if their losses were too high until the market stabilized. Republicans took the money out. Now Republicans are going to put even more money, 148 billion into the marketplace to stabilize it. That money would have also stabilized the ACA in it's present form.

This plan does nothing to 'reform' healthcare, it's not even an attempt to do so. You are not going back to lower premiums and lower deductibles, both will go up in this abomination of a healthcare plan Sorry you are so partisan that you can't see that.

The sole purpose of this 'plan' is to suck 800 billion out of medicaid and give it to the rich
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Old 06-27-2017, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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No, it is not. Getting the ******* government's hands out of my healthcare choices is the only option.
lol do you think this bill does that?
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Old 06-27-2017, 09:07 AM
 
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what a joke. Republicans have done everything they could to sabotage the ACA ....
The sole purpose of this 'plan' is to suck 800 billion out of medicaid and give it to the rich


You seem to miss the point that House Republicans don't agree with this provision.

You are drawing broad based conclusions on something that may never happen.
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Old 06-27-2017, 09:10 AM
 
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Wrong on all three.

Congenital: States are now allowed to cap benefits under Medicaid. This will result in more deaths.

Pre-existing: What happens to those people who have the misfortune to lose their jobs - see my post above yours. Health insurance is unaffordable for the unemployed.

Last Minute Signups: You are uninformed. No one can sign up willy-nilly for insurance after an accident outside of annual Open Enrollment Periods, explained here:

https://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/...llment-period/

Only a life qualifying event such as a divorce, loss of employer coverage allows special enrollments.

In all three cases, your argument is not based on fact. Best rework that thesis.
The constant posting of lies and bare bones BS here is just bizarre.
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Old 06-27-2017, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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You seem to miss the point that House Republicans don't agree with this provision.
You are drawing broad based conclusions on something that may never happen.
My conclusions are based on the Senate Bill do you have something else upon which to draw conclusions, should we pretend that they had something in mind other than what the put in that bill?

And regarding your claim that house republicans don't agree with this provision, 217 voted for the house bill which is nearly identical to the Senate bill, only 20 voted against it so I have no idea what you are even talking about.
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