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Old 07-01-2017, 01:02 PM
 
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And I don't mean by some vague indirect way like "I'll be paying through higher medical costs". I want to know how many of those uninsured that your are going to add to your insurance plan and pay the bill for every month.

You guys keep trashing republicans because they "don't care about the poor". So since you guys support funding the poor, I want to know how many people you are going to support out of pocket.

I'm looking for either a number of people (0, 1, 2, etc.), or a dollar amount.
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Old 07-01-2017, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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The sad reality of involuntary collectivism is that the less fortunate are forced to be so heavily dependent on the State it drains the people (physically from working, then financially via taxes) whose charity they need the most.
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Old 07-01-2017, 01:05 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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And I don't mean by some vague indirect way like "I'll be paying through higher medical costs". I want to know how many of those uninsured that your are going to add to your insurance plan and pay the bill for every month.

You guys keep trashing republicans because they "don't care about the poor". So since you guys support funding the poor, I want to know how many people you are going to support out of pocket.

I'm looking for either a number of people (0, 1, 2, etc.), or a dollar amount.
Let's go back to the fabulous fifties which the Trumpettes all pine for! Raise the capital gains tax to 90%, like it was back then, and you'll be able to pay for alot of healthcare!
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Old 07-01-2017, 01:07 PM
 
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How many logical fallacies does the OP contain in their low information, emotionally driven rant?
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Old 07-01-2017, 01:10 PM
 
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And I don't mean by some vague indirect way like "I'll be paying through higher medical costs". I want to know how many of those uninsured that your are going to add to your insurance plan and pay the bill for every month.

You guys keep trashing republicans because they "don't care about the poor". So since you guys support funding the poor, I want to know how many people you are going to support out of pocket.

I'm looking for either a number of people (0, 1, 2, etc.), or a dollar amount.
No, that's like saying you don't have kids so you won't pay your property taxes because they fund the local schools. It's a public good that we all pay. If you don't want to help pay for the poor, then people on your plan may not want to help pay for your insurance either. That's not how insurance work. And.....if these poor people don't have coverage, they will still go to the hospitals when they are ill, and the cost will be incurred by all of us through higher medical cost in one way or another.
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Old 07-01-2017, 01:15 PM
 
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No, that's like saying you don't have kids so you won't pay your property taxes because they fund the local schools. It's a public good that we all pay. If you don't want to help pay for the poor, then people on your plan may not want to help pay for your insurance either. That's not how insurance work. And.....if these poor people don't have coverage, they will still go to the hospitals when they are ill, and the cost will be incurred by all of us through higher medical cost in one way or another.
Yeah but, it's more fun spouting nonsense and shaking your fist angrily at the TV
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Old 07-01-2017, 01:18 PM
 
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The sad reality of involuntary collectivism is that the less fortunate are forced to be so heavily dependent on the State it drains the people (physically from working, then financially via taxes) whose charity they need the most.
Brighter and more modern minds might find a way to satisfy both sides.

If China Can Fund infrastructure with Its Own Credit, So Can*We: Ellen Brown ~ Mike Norman Economics
https://ellenbrown.com/2017/05/17/if...dit-so-can-we/
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Old 07-01-2017, 01:30 PM
 
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Conservatives go off on rants about "collectivism" on this forum, it gives you the impression that their ideal for society is for everyone to live out in the middle of nowhere in hovels like Ted Kaczynski.

Freedom!
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Old 07-01-2017, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Democrats, if "23 million lose their insurance", how many people will you buy insurance for?
What a stupid question. Some people will will see their premiums quadruple under Trumpcare, so they can't even afford their own insurance, let alone paying for someone else.
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Old 07-01-2017, 01:44 PM
 
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What a stupid question. Some people will will see their premiums quadruple under Trumpcare, so they can't even afford their own insurance, let alone paying for someone else.
This is what they do now under Obamacare.
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