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Old 07-16-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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It's the rich who are laughing all the way to the bank. The honest hard working Americans need health insurance but the rich are getting richer on the backs of the poor.

Absolutely and Kellyanne is trying to sell it to everyone.
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:03 PM
 
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Ok, that was funny but, they would be on MediCARE. Different program.

They would be on Medicare AND Medicaid would pay for the nursing home.
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:05 PM
 
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The weirdest phenomenon in US is that if you claim you cannot afford something, then everything is served free to you on a silver platter.

The honest hard working Americans get to be the laborers who are chained by their ankles and necks to serve everybody else's chosen lifestyles: uber rich and fake poor.

Not really, 11 million Americans spend at least half their income on rent - generally considered unaffordable and unsustainable - and they get squat. (If they had housing assistance, they would be paying only 30% of their income on rent.)
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:10 PM
 
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Kelly will get on the case those cheapchit companies that are too stingy to pay for healthcare...never!

Yes, her criticism is gender-based! Both genders loathe her!



Gotta get rid free trade with China and Mexico first, or they'll just relocate.
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:10 PM
 
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Not only that but seniors that qualify can also get their premiums paid through medicaid. It just isn't long term care there are thousands of seniors that get their premiums subsidized because they worked but are still quite poor.

If you look up the guidelines to qualify for medicaid you'd realize people on it have virtually nothing in most states.

https://www.caregiver.org/how-medica...penses-seniors


The idea that many of these people can just get a job is retarded. Nothing new there though, plenty of retardation out of the Trump camp.


"Data from the 2015 National Health Interview Survey illustrate that most healthy Medicaid expansion beneficiaries are working or pursuing economic opportunities. Half (48 percent) of adults covered by the Medicaid expansion are permanently disabled, have serious physical or mental limitations—-caused by conditions like cancer, stroke, heart disease, cognitive or mental health disorders, arthritis, pregnancy, or diabetes—-or are in fair or poor health. Low-wage jobs are often physically demanding, precluding those with limitations from employment. Of the other half, who might be viewed as “able-bodied,†62 percent are already working or in school and 12 percent are looking for work; only 25 percent are not currently working or in school. (More information about the analyses is at the end of this brief.)

Only 13 percent of adults covered by Medicaid’s expansion are able-bodied and not working, in school, or seeking work. Of that small group, three-quarters report they are not working in order to care for family members and the rest report other reasons, like being laid off. A much higher share of overall American adults are unemployed or not in the labor force (28 percent), according to 2015 Census data. Medicaid expansion enrollees are more likely to be working or looking for work than the general public, unless they are burdened by ill health or the needs of their families. Moreover, Medicaid expansions could make it easier for beneficiaries to find work, as reported in Ohio."

Myths About The Medicaid Expansion And The

The income limits to get Medicare premiums paid by Medicaid are very low and vary by state; in my state it is about $1,100 per month, which might or might not cover a 1BR apartment in my state.
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:11 PM
 
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Ok, that was funny but, they would be on MediCARE. Different program.
Medicare doesn't pay for nursing homes, Medicaid does.
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:13 PM
 
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Gotta get rid free trade with China and Mexico first, or they'll just relocate.

China is working on that.
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:42 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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Medicare doesn't pay for nursing homes, Medicaid does.
They BOTH pay for nursing homes. MediCARE pays at first but then MediCAID takes over.

I would predict that most people will benefit from Medicaid someday--if their parents ever go into a nursing home, wouldn't they rather have Medicaid pay for it than to pay for a nursing home themselves? It takes over when Medicare runs out. They, themselves could end up in a nursing home if they were in an accident and needed rehabilitation.

Anyone can have a job loss or get in an accident that prevents them from working for a while and the safety net of Medicaid fills in. Also, if you ever were forced to take a low paying job or a job that doesn't even offer health insurance, Medicaid would be there. Don't even think you won't need it--you can end up divorced and have to re-locate and be without a job for a while. There are all sorts of upheavals in life that we can't know about until they happen.
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Old 07-16-2017, 08:38 PM
 
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Medicare doesn't pay for long-term care. "31.5 percent of Medicaid's $400 billion in shared federal and state spending goes to long-term care for the elderly and the disabled."
Ok, thanks. Fortunately, I'm not old enough to know about that yet.

But, later on, when someone tries to get me out of my wheelchair they're going to have to talk to my Glock first.
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Old 07-16-2017, 08:46 PM
 
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There is a small film that grows in your toilet water if you don't flush it for a couple days. I call it Conway film. As a Halloween lover, I do however, appreciate her resemblance to the crypt keeper.
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