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Old 07-18-2017, 08:46 PM
 
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Try gaining a specialization in economics and specifically go look for a course in the area of Ethics & Economics. I'm not up in the clouds, it's just that you can't reach for the clouds to see what I'm trying to tell you. That's what that sweet "liberal" education does to you... makes you think about things in ways others can't or haven't thought about before. Also another reason why my salary level at my age is higher than 97% of my peers and 90% of the entire country.
Ok, it's even more scary than I thought. You're a full-of-yourself young buck who hasn't been fired yet or had his head handed to him economically, yet. It'll happen...it does to most. Then you find out how much that over-priced college education DIDN'T teach you. It's called the "School of Hard Knocks" and you learn many valuable lessons from it.

I've known sooooo many like you and it's their hubris and arrogance that is their downfall. You'll be no different. Meanwhile, get back to me when you make your statement to the people I mentioned.

 
Old 07-18-2017, 08:59 PM
 
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This goes on every generation and humanity always survives the incoming changing of the guard. This is from 1968 for crying out loud. I'm genX and I remember being accused of wanting what my parents had without wanting to work for it. Same crap, different decade.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZo2hhvvlpw
That is a totally AWESOME 3 minute video take!
Everyone on here under 30 ought to watch it.
From the 1960's but is exactly what needs to be heard today.
 
Old 07-18-2017, 09:06 PM
 
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millennials are entitlement minded. Believe everything should be given to them.
bull
 
Old 07-18-2017, 09:55 PM
 
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I think that a lot of millenials see capitalism for what it is - a failure in the long run, with predictable greed of the upper class getting out of control, and ultimately destroying the opportunities/decent life for the rest of population.
The "golden era" of American capitalism is over, with boomers reaping the advantages of it, and passing on its disadvantages that millenials are experiencing down the line, increasingly so.
If during boomers times European youth was looking at America with a slight envy as a "land of opportunities," now the tables turned, and young Americans are looking at Europe as a land of fairness, where the society is looking better after the necessitates of its citizens ( youngsters including, when it comes to free higher education.)
And that's what the votes of younger generation given to Bernie Sanders were all about.
They want mixed economy - the way it operates in European countries, they want more security in their daily lives - the kind of security that such economy brings. Of course under these circumstances America would have to limit immigration, to close its border from the inflow of cheap labor and to divert money for the betterment of life of her own citizens, instead of investing them elsewhere - be that China or India ( or wherever the money promise bigger returns.) With that of course comes to end the myth of "American exceptionalism," as much as the slogan that "America is the only future of the world."
All this obviously doesn't sit well with older generation, - the part of it that is still reaping the benefits of capitalism's past glory, and hence the frustration and accusations that fly in millenials faces - regarding the "entitlement" and all.
 
Old 07-18-2017, 11:14 PM
 
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I think that a lot of millenials see capitalism for what it is - a failure in the long run, with predictable greed of the upper class getting out of control, and ultimately destroying the opportunities/decent life for the rest of population.
The "golden era" of American capitalism is over, with boomers reaping the advantages of it, and passing on its disadvantages that millenials are experiencing down the line, increasingly so.
If during boomers times European youth was looking at America with a slight envy as a "land of opportunities," now the tables turned, and young Americans are looking at Europe as a land of fairness, where the society is looking better after the necessitates of its citizens ( youngsters including, when it comes to free higher education.)
And that's what the votes of younger generation given to Bernie Sanders were all about.
They want mixed economy - the way it operates in European countries, they want more security in their daily lives - the kind of security that such economy brings. Of course under these circumstances America would have to limit immigration, to close its border from the inflow of cheap labor and to divert money for the betterment of life of her own citizens, instead of investing them elsewhere - be that China or India ( or wherever the money promise bigger returns.) With that of course comes to end the myth of "American exceptionalism," as much as the slogan that "America is the only future of the world."
All this obviously doesn't sit well with older generation, - the part of it that is still reaping the benefits of capitalism's past glory, and hence the frustration and accusations that fly in millenials faces - regarding the "entitlement" and all.
Seems you've got it all figured out. Where do you get your information? From Bernie Sanders? I've never once heard Bernie say he's even BEEN to Scandanavia, let alone spent a real time there and learned how those countries operate. No, he's been touting from his dream view and trying to sell it to Americans as if it based on fact and reality.

I have been to many European countries and have known many Euros living in America. I assure you, they DO NOT have it all figured out (they will assure you that too). Some things are better/nicer there and plenty are most definitely worse.

Do not believe people who tell you that you can have, or are entitled, to a free lunch. They're gaming you.
 
Old 07-18-2017, 11:34 PM
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Seems you've got it all figured out. Where do you get your information? From Bernie Sanders? I've never once heard Bernie say he's even BEEN to Scandanavia, let alone spent a real time there and learned how those countries operate. No, he's been touting from his dream view and trying to sell it to Americans as if it based on fact and reality.

I have been to many European countries and have known many Euros living in America. I assure you, they DO NOT have it all figured out (they will assure you that too). Some things are better/nicer there and plenty are most definitely worse.

Do not believe people who tell you that you can have, or are entitled, to a free lunch. They're gaming you.
So uh, do you have an actual objection to what was posted? Or just the standard right winger kneejerk response about a "free lunch" no one is suggesting?
 
Old 07-18-2017, 11:56 PM
 
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Seems you've got it all figured out.
I did. Didn't I?

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Where do you get your information? From Bernie Sanders?
Nah, just my own conclusions and observations.

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I have been to many European countries and have known many Euros living in America. I assure you, they DO NOT have it all figured out (they will assure you that too). Some things are better/nicer there and plenty are most definitely worse.
No one "figured it all out" no one is God, so it's a matter of preferences and priorities. With other words - it's a matter of personal choice; who believes in what.

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Do not believe people who tell you that you can have, or are entitled, to a free lunch. They're gaming you.
There is no such thing as "free lunch," that's given. The question is ( yet again) - how important is that lunch, how much are you willing to pay for it, and whether you are willing to pay for someone else's lunch in order to secure your own, when one day you might come short on money.
 
Old 07-19-2017, 07:42 AM
 
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Nope, you bought hook-line-and-sinker into the Bernie BS and utterly contradict yourself, numerous times, in this last post because you got called on the blind worship.

P.S. Go buy lunches for lots of strangers and let us know what kind of guarantee you got that when you need that free lunch, it will be provided for you? (It's an analogy.)

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Old 07-19-2017, 07:52 AM
 
Location: USA
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You mean like Solyndra, and all the "green" companies that got 100's of millions in government grants under Obama, then went bankrupt?
Ah the Solyndra meme. Good to see the Foxbots and Rushbots self-identify.
 
Old 07-19-2017, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking Hey, Ivan... I'm happy to 'splain it to you

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Why don’t millennials like capitalism?
Their first real exposure to "capitalism:"

Millennial finishes HS and looks for a job: not much available other than low wage dead-end stuff.

Millennial finishes trade school or college: has a big fat loan to pay off and the available jobs still aren't so hot for the majority of them.

You see, we don't really have a capitalistic system in the USA. It's socialism for the wealthy and capitalism for the rest of us. And the "Tax cuts/trickle-down" crap sold to us by the GOP has been a big failure. But that's the only trick they have in their bag.

So, there's your explanation.

But I can't comprehend it for you.

Carry on.

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