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Old 08-08-2017, 06:48 PM
 
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It worked better than telling them that pot is okay. Once the big push started to legalize pot everywhere, then the opioid crisis started to rear its ugly head. Coincidence?
You don't know anything about opioids and how people get hooked, do you?
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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If you go to Wikipedia and read about Opioids the first thing you see is a huge defense by the drug industry claiming they are vital drugs and man can't live without them.

Bunk. Ban them all especially the prescriptions.

Man has lived without them for eons and I am sorry about your pain. How much pain are people causing who take these drugs when 142 people die every day?
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:52 PM
 
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Opioids given for a very short time (three days or so) following traumatic injury or surgery is appropriate. Sending someone home with a month-long prescription for hydrocodone because he has nagging low back pain is inappropriate and encourages abuse. It's a direct route to addiction.
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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If you go to Wikipedia and read about Opioids the first thing you see is a huge defense by the drug industry claiming they are vital drugs and man can't live without them.

Bunk. Ban them all especially the prescriptions.

Man has lived without them for eons and I am sorry about your pain. How much pain are people causing who take these drugs when 142 people die every day?
So, by your logic, we should ban ALL cars on the road because drunk drivers kill people.
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Florida
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'Just Say No'

It works soooooooooo well.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Full circle simplicity.

Nancy Reagan, socialite and one-percenter, didn't have a clue what to do about drugs and neither does one-percenter even more clueless Trump.

So meanwhile, Ronnie starts a War on Drugs (while the US manages the drug lords in South America smuggling them in), and Session resurrects the War on Drugs, while the pharmaceutical lobbyists are having drinks and playing baseball with the House GOP.

Some things never ever change.

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Old 08-08-2017, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Most people don't realize that heroin isn't the kind of drug that teenagers try at parties to have a good time. Most people who end up on heroin become addicted to prescription opioids at first and then that leads to heroin when they can no longer get their "fix" from pills like oxycontin.
Well that is something that happens to some people, that is not the reason "most" people are on heroin.
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Old 08-08-2017, 07:01 PM
 
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Opioids given for a very short time (three days or so) following traumatic injury or surgery is appropriate. Sending someone home with a month-long prescription for hydrocodone because he has nagging low back pain is inappropriate and encourages abuse. It's a direct route to addiction.
And it almost never happens. In fact, it's practically impossible for most people to write these kind of prescriptions anymore.
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Old 08-08-2017, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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Opioids given for a very short time (three days or so) following traumatic injury or surgery is appropriate. Sending someone home with a month-long prescription for hydrocodone because he has nagging low back pain is inappropriate and encourages abuse. It's a direct route to addiction.
No it is not!

I suffered burns on 25 percent of my body. I took no pain killers.

I broke my jaw and shattered ten teeth and took no pain killers.

I broke 4 ribs and took no pain killers.

Four wisdom teeth removed, yes during surgery no after.

Doctors have tried to feed me pain killers dozens of times in my life.

If someone is in pain after surgery you don't risk the death of other people. You live with the pain.

People who say yes I will have opioids are killing other people rather that tolerating pain.
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Old 08-08-2017, 07:09 PM
 
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And it almost never happens. In fact, it's practically impossible for most people to write these kind of prescriptions anymore.
Which is wonderful progress, and I'm glad to hear it. Just last year, my husband was sent home with two weeks of hydrocodone after surgery. He needed it for about two days, leaving us with a bottle full of unused pills. I took them to the Sheriff's Department for disposal. Shortly thereafter, our Boy Scout troop was out hiking when one of our Scouts found a keychain pill container shaped like a whippit on the ground. My husband took it and brought it home where I identified the contents as hydrocodone. Twenty-some pills of it. Opioid abuse is everywhere.
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Old 08-08-2017, 07:14 PM
 
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No it is not!

I suffered burns on 25 percent of my body. I took no pain killers.

I broke my jaw and shattered ten teeth and took no pain killers.

I broke 4 ribs and took no pain killers.

If someone is in pain after surgery you don't risk the death of other people. You live with the pain.

People who say yes I will have opioids are killing other people rather that tolerating pain.
Short-term use of opioid pain medication is not correlated with abuse, and it is appropriate when closely supervised by a medical professional, especially in a hospital setting. Two weeks seems to be the threshold, at least according to the doctor in my family and my pharmacist, and no opioids should ever be prescribed when there is a history of abuse.

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