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I don't have 'a dog in the hunt', so to speak (I'm agnostic, and not a Republican nor a Trump supporter). Given what I bolded above, do you think being a very devout follower of one's faith means that that person is lacking in character?
Terror and revulsion are pretty strong words. What, specifically, among Cruz's views and Huckabee's views do you think stirs such a strong reaction within you?
You are making a leap, and reading things into my words that I did not intend to imply. I objected to Cruz and Huckabee for political reasons - they are much too far to the right for me. My remarks about character referred to Trump alone, as did the comment about terror and revulsion. I have no problem with people having strong faith. I disagree with Kasich about many things, but I have great respect for him as a person, and he is quite devout.
Who started the Republican Party? Abraham Lincoln. The Democratic Party? In 1820, Andrew Jackson.
Jackson screwed over the Native Americans for the Democrats’ vote – Indian Removal Bill.
National Republican Senator Frelinghuysen opposed taking Indian land by violence. National Republican Congressman Davy Crockett also opposed this.
Democrats passed it, Jackson signed it into law.
Alexis de Tocqueville, the French observer of Early American History describes the air of destruction of most celebrated and ancient American Peoples a “Trail of Tears.”
Besides stealing land of the Indians, Democrats also embraced slavery on plantations.
Jackson owned hundreds of slaves. He had Betty receive 50 lashes for washing neighbors’ clothes without his permission.
Jackson, in 1804, ran an add for the return of a runaway slave, offering $50.00 for the return, and $10.00 for each 100 lashings, up to 300 lashings, essentially a death sentence.
Jackson didn’t just steal their labor. He raped young women.
Republicans formed to end slavery and to free runaway slaves.
John C. Calhoun was one of the most notorious Democratic defenders (and Senator) of slavery. He said that slavery benefited both parties.
Today, Democrats duck responsibility by trying to blame the South. But Northern Democrats tried to protect slavery. One such advocate was Illinois Senator Steven Douglass. He thought each state should decide for/against slavery. He wanted slavery all over the world, not just here.
Republicans wanted to end the spread of slavery. Republican Senator Charles Sumner (1856) denounced slavery.
Preston Brooks, Democratic Congressman, physically attacked him from behind with a cane, nearly killing him.
Lincoln considered slavery a “form of theft.”
“You work, I eat.”
Democratic Propaganda states the Civil War as being a contest between anti-Slavery North vs. the pro-Slavery South. This is a lie. The Civil War was about a war between the Abolitionists and those who wanted Slavery.
Lincoln said, “The judgment of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.”
But didn’t some Republicans own slaves? No. All the slaves at the time of the Civil War were owned by Democrats.
So, the Civil War is best known as a contest between the anti-slavery Republican Party and the Pro-Slavery Democratic Party.
Lincoln wanted to give freed slaves citizenship, equal rights, and the right to vote.
The Democrats couldn’t believe it.
Lincoln was assassinated.
Democratic Party Legacy:
Oppression
Indian Massacres
Broken Treaties
Slavery
But they claim to be the party of the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s.
But that was just an Act. There already was a Civil Rights Movement lead by the Republican Party from back in the 1860s.
The 1960s Act merely tried to claim laws that were already put into the Constitution 100 years previously by the, that’s right, Republicans.
A little known fact, more Republicans than Democrats voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Today’s Democrats take credit for Civil Rights legislation.
So what’s their contribution? They finally agreed to stop filibustering it so it could pass.
“40 Acres and a Mule”
The Republican Party set aside 400,000 acres of confiscated Confederate land and began dividing it to give freed slaves 40 acres and a left-over army mule.
Democratic President Andrew Johnson gave the land back to its former plantation owners.
Democrats claim to be the “Party of Economic Opportunity”, but they opposed the 13th Amendment.
Slavery Abolishment: Republicans were 100% for, Democrats were 77% against.
Democrats claim to be the Party of “Social Justice”, but they fought the 14th Amendment, which gives citizenship to Blacks and established equality of rights under the law.
14th Amendment: Republicans 94% for, Democrats 0% for.
Democrats lecture Republicans over Racial Equality.
Racial Equality: the Democrats voted against the 15th Amendment, refusing to give slaves the right to vote.
15th Amendment: Republicans 100% for, Democrats 100% against.
Republicans also gave women the right to vote. Suffragettes were virtually all Republican, Democrats opposed Suffragettes. They fought it and lost in Congress. Then they fought it in the States where they lost again.
Democrats New Plan: Carol Swain from Vanderbilt Law School is an expert on Race Relations and Civil Rights; After Civil War in 1865, the Democratic Party was in ruins and they needed a New Plan.
The Ku Klux Klan was founded by Nathan Bedford Forrest. He was the first Grand Wizard and a pledged delegate to the Democratic Convention.
The whole purpose of the Democratic Party was to reestablish White Supremacy.
1868, the party platform was “This is a white man’s country, let a white man rule.”
Black Republicans and White Republicans were its targets.
Congressman James Hinds was the first sitting member of Congress assassinated.
During the Klans’ long reign of terror, they killed over 3,000 blacks and over 1,000 white Republicans.
The Ku Klux Klan was the military arm of the Democratic Party.
Why has all of this been swept under the rug? To cover the tracks of the Democratic Party.
The violence of racism carried well into the 20th Century, at other times, it merely changed forms.
Ida B. Wells refused to give up her 1st Class train seat to a white man. She was a Republican, working for a Republican paper. She fought for a Black Man’s 2nd Amendment right and wanted a Winchester in their home to defend themselves against the KKK.
Early Democrats opposition to the 2nd Amendment had a racist motive. In fact, almost every thing they did had a racist motive.
Why did the KKK have a revival in the early 20th Century?
Another fan of the KKK was President Woodrow Wilson. “The Birth of a Nation” by D.W. Griffith, -the first movie screened in the White House.
In 1914, Ida B. Wells confronted Woodrow Wilson for his racist views.
She called him out for removing black officials from top jobs and putting them in menial jobs, janitors, etc.
He said segregation is good for both.
He continued to segregate the Federal Government.
1924: Democratic National Convention: “The Klan Bake”
10s of 1000s of Klansmen marched on New York City shouting racist slogans and burning crosses to celebrate the Democratic Party’s refusal to condemn the KKK in their platform.
The New Deal:
FDR didn’t have the votes to pass the New Deal program, so he promised the Democratic Party that he would block any anti-lynching legislation and he would exclude blacks from most New Deal programs.
White farmers were paid to not grow crops which meant many Blacks lost their jobs.
So most blacks, if they worked on the land, if they worked as maids, if they were paid in cash, they couldn’t get Social Security.
Johnson knew he had the Black vote, but privately, he knew the Black voters outnumbered the White voters in Texas.
Called the Negro Bill, he said, “We got to give them just enough but not enough to make a difference.”
Democrats are still trying to use Black Peoples’ vote for their own gain.
Deny, Deny, Deny, Shift Blame, Shift Blame, Shift Blame. That’s all they do.
Bill Mahr: “If you are racist, you’re probably a Republican.”
The Big Switch:
Senator Strom Thurmond was a racist Democrat who became a Republican.
But wait a minute. The Blacks switched to the Democratic Party in the 1930s, based on the promises of the New Deal.
They didn’t do it due to Race. They knew they were joining the party of the KKK and the party of segregation.
Southern Whites moved over to the Republican Party much later, during the 1970s to 90s, as the South became much more prosperous.
Racism had declined dramatically in the South. So as the South became less racist, it became more Republican.
So Blacks and Whites switched parties for economic reasons.
The proof of this is in Byron Shafer and Richard Johnson’s book, “The End of Southern Exceptionalism.” It shows the poorest, most racist Whites never switched.
The Whites that did switch from Democrats to Republicans, “were the non-racists, who were attracted to the Republican Party’s message of opportunity, prosperity, and upward mobility.”
So, besides Strom Thurmond, who else switched from Democrat to Republican?
Leaders of the KKK?
Leaders of other racist organizations?
Democratic Congressmen?
Democratic Senators from 1860-2000?
All who voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964?
14 of 1600, so less than 1%
The Big Switch is a Big Lie.
The Democrats didn’t switch from being the Bad Guys to the Good Guys, the simply found a new and better scam.
Millions of Southern Blacks moved north, joined by millions of immigrants, from all over the world. So the Democrats got an idea; Let’s recreate the plantation, but now do it in the inner city.
Obama- Dreams from my Father, “Seemed like we’d always be second-class citizens. Plantation Politics.” So evidently, Plantation talk was coming from Barack’s dad.
Black people in the worst jobs, worst housing, police brutality rampant, but when the so-called black committeemen came around election time… “We’d all line up and vote the Straight Democratic Ticket. Sell our souls for a Christmas Turkey. White folks spitting in our faces, and we’d reward them with a vote.”
So what has Obama done to get rid of the Democratic Plantation? Nothing.
That’s because he’s running it.
These plantations weren’t just for Blacks, they were also for other minorities and immigrants.
When these groups arrived, they found waiting for them a Democratic Welcoming Committee.
They helped them out, got them a place to live, got them jobs.
The immigrant plantation had their own names; ghettoes, slums, barrios.
Welcome to America!
The Democrats built them, put these vulnerable people in them, and made sure no one left them.
Nothing’s free. They made sure these folks voted for them.
Gangs have bosses who control them. The Democrats invented the “Big City” Boss.
They didn’t just control politics, they also controlled industry, Unions.
Once in power, they steal the city treasury and shake-down businesses.
This makes them the “Original Community Organizers.”
Inner City racket.
Research Richard J. Daley
Johah Goldberg is an editor at the National Review. “Democrats used to like to be called Liberals.”
Today, it’s Progressive. What does Progressive mean? Social engineering, social control.
U.S. : Progressivism
USSR: Communism
Italy: Fascism
The Holocaust started off as progressive ideas, experimentation, planning, eugenics.
Margaret Sanger – Silver Lake New Jersey 1926. – Planned Parenthood
Had I lived decades ago, I'm sure I would have been a Republican. Happy now?
Considering how many right-wing trolls and snots came on this forum today to try to justify or explain away with conspiracy theories the cold-blooded murder committed by white supremacists yesterday in Charlottesville, that is sadly an accurate statement - most right-wing Trumplings would sooner stand by the KKK than anybody remotely sane or decent; their words and actions condemn them.
As for the rest, the OP's thread is just more utter right-wing lunatic drivel. The real reason "left-wingers" hate Trump is because he's a lying, dishonest scumbag who pays neither his taxes nor his employees, molests women, and is either in cahoots with Russia or too damn stupid to understand how they are playing him and thus too stupid to be president. He is a fraud, a failure, and a worthless cross between Caligula and Jabba the Hutt who's only saving grace will be that upon his passing, the elements within his body may someday combine to form something more useful than him... like a tree, a rock, or a pile of well-aged bull manure.
The real question is why the Republican blindly support that fool. You don't have to mindlessly support everybody in your party or every action they take to be a member of that party: I consider myself far more "left" than "right," and I'll gladly admit that Hillary was the 2nd worst presidential candidate in modern history - 2nd only to Trump, as the facts would support. Why don't right-wingers have the same level of self-reflection and courage? Oh, yeah - because it would get in the way of the mindless, simmering hatred.
Hyperbole aside, you're not wrong. Larger point being those of us on the Left really have little need to have the Right wing 'mansplain' why we believe Trump has no business being anywhere near the White House. We're quite capable of tabulating our own reasons, thank you very much.
Gangs have bosses who control them. The Democrats invented the “Big City” Boss.
They didn’t just control politics, they also controlled industry, Unions.
Once in power, they steal the city treasury and shake-down businesses.
This makes them the “Original Community Organizers.”
Inner City racket.
Research Richard J. Daley
Johah Goldberg is an editor at the National Review. “Democrats used to like to be called Liberals.”
Today, it’s Progressive. What does Progressive mean? Social engineering, social control.
U.S. : Progressivism
USSR: Communism
Italy: Fascism
Nice job on one side of the equation. You somehow conveniently forget that the labor movements was largely a reaction (and a good one, at that!) to "The Bosses" who were, in most cases, Republican....and who owned virtually everything. Does Andrew Carnegie ring a bell? You know, the guy who hired thugs to shoot down strikers? The buddies with the private lake that burst its dam and destroyed Johnstown?
I mean - we COULD go back to caveman times. I think part of your point is well-taken and that is:
All People and Organizations are Corruptible".
Another fact is that the world is largely beyond our control- even that of Andrew Carnegie. When the working man was not making enough to even get by....Carnegie had to 1/2 his wages. Not because Andrew was a bad man - but because the prices of the products they made (steel) went down due to "the invisible hand".
It's very convenient to pretend that history started on a certain date - but it did not. You do know that the Pilgrims came here indebted to a corporation, right? And that millions of people the world over were killed, starved and robbed (colonialised) for a CORPORATE CHARTER, right?
Nothing much has changed. When one of our bombs kill a bunch of innocents, lots of people make a buck.
BTW, names don't mean much but I used to consider myself a radical. Now that I am more aware of the history of civil rights, suffrage, etc. I would proudly use the terms liberal or progressive.
The terms which really does not exist...in terms of history...is "conservative". I mean...there are very few people more conservative than I am. Straight and narrow - worked hard for 40 years, raised three children and put them through school (and grad school), opened a numbers of successful small businesses. Married to the same woman for 45 years....always a part of volunteer efforts in my home communities. Lived in the same house for over 25 years (when kids were growing).
Paid my taxes. Saved every dollar that I could - to the point where we will be able (Lord Willing) to live like Kings as well as help our family during our golden years.
Would that define me, in your humble opinion, as a conservative?
I guess what would have me thrown out of the Republican party is my tendency to pay my employees at double the going rate and provide benefits usually reserved for large companies. Such an attitude would have me cast upon the waters for my eternal sins.
An interview with David Horowitz. He describes his background and the sixties Leftists; compares them to today's Leftists and "social justice warriors." Today's Left dominates the political landscape in the U.S. (unlike the sixties Leftists). They believe they can create a "heaven on earth." Obviously, Donald Trump represents the opposition to this Utopian dream. He is dismantling to a large extent the "progress" that they believe they had achieved, especially under Barack Obama, who, having been raised by communists, believes as they do, and had facilitated the progress they had made (the term "Progressive" was not chosen by chance, but they truly believe that their philosophy represents human progress, and that the "old ways" represent going backward).
And you wonder why we scoff at all the garbage you guys post. Start posting something somewhat close to reality, and we will have something to talk about. Until then, you are just being silly. How about living up to your user name for once?
Had I lived decades ago, I'm sure I would have been a Republican. Happy now?
He leaves out the most important parts of history - including.....
1. Republicans, in the time of Lincoln, were progressive urban northeast (and northern) liberals who were against slavery (to whatever extent) and are today called Democrats (the New England Republican of old - a reasonable person - has been long cast out of the crazy party).
The word "conservative" came into being about this time - and it defined someone who supported slavery (not a particular party, but someone who supported the status quo).
2. The real turning of the tide was Ted Roosevelt - a Republican who was also cast out of his party....in this case for caring about "the people" too much. He was a "progressive" and even started his own progressive political party.
Since that time the only reasonable elected Republican has been IKE...and he believed in tax increases and socialism to a degree which would have him thrown out of the modern GOP.
I mean....as an overview the Democrats won the two largest wars in history...probably, if such can be said, the only ones which were "just" war. The Democrats created Social Security, Medicare and most other good things for the masses...
The Republicans became strong by becoming racist and divisive (southern strategy and culture wars). They had the bigger hand in the Great Recession and the Great Depression. Aren't they really doing the same thing today?
Of course, before GW we had Republicans who - at the very least - would sometimes do the jobs they were elected to. Nixon started the EPA (due to pressure...largely from democrats). IKE financed and pushed ahead with the Interstate Highway System (he was amazed by Hitlers work on the Autobahns).
The real difference today is that the current GOP doesn't even lie about being "for the people" any longer. No need to since campaign finance has changed. They are now able to coddle their billionaire donors and hold office for power and money alone.
And you wonder why we scoff at all the garbage you guys post. Start posting something somewhat close to reality, and we will have something to talk about. Until then, you are just being silly. How about living up to your user name for once?
There is nothing silly about learning what the Left is all about. This discussion (by David Horowitz) is about the history of the Left in America. Is history silly to you?
Oh, I get it ...it hits too close to home, therefore it must be discredited as "silly" nonsense.
Actually, he covers this very well. I was a hippie (sort of) in San Diego when the SDS was rising. I remember Tom Hayden, and many of the other names he mentions. If you weren't around then, you might think it's "silly" but it's all historical fact. Horowitz knows his history. This is all completely factual.
I read every word of that CBS Story, I don't see any problems with what obama was saying and doing. He was never insulting, brash, or horrific, he was trying to get so,etching done with a congress that promised to never let him succeed. Seriously, dressing down Poor Paul. He was the one shutting down the government! He and Mitch McConnell. This is a total fail, go back and try again.
LOL. It's not like he was tweeting about how GWB was evil and wiretapped him. There simply is no comparison. I've no doubt that Obama could come across as . . . egotistical but still nothing in Trump's (I HAVE THE BIGGEST HANDS THAT EVER WERE) category.
Trump's so damn dumb he tweets and alienates HIS OWN party as well as personally attacking those in the Democratic party. Tweeting insults at Schumer and Elizabeth Warren.
I hope he continues. It guarantees he will accomplish NOTHING.
An interview with David Horowitz. He describes his background and the sixties Leftists; compares them to today's Leftists and "social justice warriors." Today's Left dominates the political landscape in the U.S. (unlike the sixties Leftists). They believe they can create a "heaven on earth." Obviously, Donald Trump represents the opposition to this Utopian dream. He is dismantling to a large extent the "progress" that they believe they had achieved, especially under Barack Obama, who, having been raised by communists, believes as they do, and had facilitated the progress they had made (the term "Progressive" was not chosen by chance, but they truly believe that their philosophy represents human progress, and that the "old ways" represent going backward).
Nah -- I never liked Trump as a celebrity. He's always been a creep and still is.
Good try though.
Trump's politics are the least of his concerns. Does he have politics or does he just switch back and forth and all around -- who will vote for me if I stand on my head and say HILLARY CLINTON GOES TO JAIL.....y'all win -- okay - -duh?!
Trump invited Clinton to his wedding. They were New York social friends. But his supporters think he really believed she was that bad. PFFFFT. He said it to appease you.
Trump could care less about abortion, same sex...but he took a stance to get a vote.
Trump doesn't know anything about international trade, tarriffs, the impact on the economy. He knows how to find a supplier cheap for his shirts. That's not the same thing.
Trump doesn't know anything about life for someone who wasn't born into money -- but his base thinks he is relatable. Pffft.
Trump's politics aren't the problem -- it's his lack of integrity, commitment. He's there for the show -- picking fights, holding pat me on the back rallies.
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