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Old 08-20-2017, 08:06 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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As if 'the left' ever supported NAMBLA--***sheesh*** you guys are shameless.
View the following...

https://sisypheannewscom.files.wordp...namblabamn.jpg

Are those spokespersons lefties or righties?
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Old 08-20-2017, 08:15 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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Antifa could not possibly have violated 1A. Only the government can be guilty of that. You should read 1A again.

Free Speech is violated only when the speaker is threatened with retribution by the government, and the government was not the reason Milo the Sleaze was not allowed to speak. It would have been fine with the government if he had spoken.

Milo was curtailed because the public thought he was an *******. They're right, you know.
That's completely false.
Free speech and the first amendment are two different concepts.
The first amendment is the protection of free speech from government infringement. It is not free speech.
Free speech is a wholly separate societal principle that is the foundation of a democratic society regardless of the precise forms of government.
What happened to Milo was the definition of the suppression of free speech. I suggest you go back and reread your John Stuart Mill (specifically chapter 2 of On Liberty).
Or maybe just one phrase:
"The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others."
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Old 08-20-2017, 08:19 AM
 
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View the following...

https://sisypheannewscom.files.wordp...namblabamn.jpg

Are those spokespersons lefties or righties?
Thorstad is a communist and SWP as are his members. So, it's hard to say. But, your own Milo is NAMBLA and he is clearly on the right. We don't need to assume.
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Old 08-20-2017, 08:25 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Thorstad is a communist and SWP as are his members. So, it's hard to say.
Really? Communists aren't right-wing.
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But, your own Milo is NAMBLA
I didn't see his name on the NAMBLA spokesperson list.
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Why do you assume that?

-Former chief of staff to Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) who was arrested on child pornography charges
- California Deputy Attorney General Raymond Liddy (R) has been charged with child pornography possession
-State Sen. Ralph Shortey (R) charged with engaging in child prostitution.
Although, after a google somebody else has compiled it.

A Very Long List of Republican Sex Offenders - The Constantine Report

This is a list for dems, which does appear smaller, so I'm not sure why you are thinking this is a left issue.

A partial list of democratic pedophiles
You are confusing politicians private behavior with their political positions.

I support NAMBLA's right to air their views.
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:05 AM
 
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Really? Communists aren't right-wing. I didn't see his name on the NAMBLA spokesperson list.
I'm not following you. Men who want to sex children tend to be right-wing. This we know at least from arrest records. They do try to hide it. Those that publish their names do bring it to another level, as well as those who publically endorse it, and the only one we have on either side is Milo, who is on the right. Yet, you want to blame this on the left. Typical lack of accountability from the right.
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:09 AM
 
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You are confusing politicians private behavior with their political positions.

I support NAMBLA's right to air their views.
The charge is that the left supports NAMBLA. As in supports the sexing of children. I'm arguing that this is not the case and that there is no evidence to support it.
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:13 AM
 
Location: NY>FL>VA>NC>IN
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I'm not following you. Men who want to sex children tend to be right-wing. This we know at least from arrest records. They do try to hide it. Those that publish their names do bring it to another level, as well as those who publically endorse it, and the only one we have on either side is Milo, who is on the right. Yet, you want to blame this on the left. Typical lack of accountability from the right.
Pedos are EVERYwhere, that is sure. They are present in every segment, race, culture and have been for thousands of years.

My concern with those who wish to normalize any and all forms of sexual orientation/gender orientation is that it could lead to pedophilia being accepted as just another variant on the spectrum; bestiality is legal in many states (I was astounded when I learned this) and Denmark OPENLY has animal brothels; zoophilia is close to being called a variant, not deviant behavior. Age of consent in some middle Eastern countries is 9years; in those countries apparently pedos are A-ok.

We are no longer "allowed" to denigrate sexual deviants here in the USA; we are to accept them as normal. That is primarily the handiwork of the "left".
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:19 AM
 
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Pedos are EVERYwhere, that is sure. They are present in every segment, race, culture and have been for thousands of years.

My concern with those who wish to normalize any and all forms of sexual orientation/gender orientation is that it could lead to pedophilia being accepted as just another variant on the spectrum; bestiality is legal in many states (I was astounded when I learned this) and Denmark OPENLY has animal brothels; zoophilia is close to being called a variant, not deviant behavior. Age of consent in some middle Eastern countries is 9years; in those countries apparently pedos are A-ok.

We are no longer "allowed" to denigrate sexual deviants here in the USA; we are to accept them as normal. That is primarily the handiwork of the "left".
To make clear, sexual orientation has nothing to do with anything in that arena. I think heterosexual men are the most likely to be pedophiles. With that said, I have no issue stripping the rights of people who endorse any kind of harm towards children. I think the free speech right would fight me tooth and nail on that
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Dunno. Maybe you should look it up. How often to cops shoot people for no reason?
Roughly every week, and that's just the ones we hear about.
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