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View Poll Results: Would you vote to forfeit 800,000 American job opportunities?
Sure, why not? We are generous. 46 34.07%
No! Are you crazy? 76 56.30%
I don't care. 13 9.63%
Voters: 135. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-14-2017, 08:00 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa View Post
Trump said "at a later time". It will not be part of the DACA deal cut last night.
Given the fact that there's sniping between sides today, I don't believe there is any "deal." Time will tell... Tick tock, DACAs...

 
Old 09-14-2017, 08:16 AM
 
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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy View Post
Not likely. We never stood for, nor will we ever stand for an illegal, unconstitutional "program."

The fact remains we have people in this country illegally. I don't care how long they've been here. They can get in line. Their cases need to be reviewed. Are they contributing or not? What skills do they offer?

We have been paying for their education, and providing other benefits, which is a violation of law (8 USC 1324 and 1611). No funding or benefits are to be given to non-citizens or those in the country illegally.
It does not matter if they are contributing or not, they all need to go back. Every American job should go to an American. Every DACA person competes with an American for housing, education and jobs.
 
Old 09-14-2017, 08:21 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa View Post
Trump said "at a later time". It will not be part of the DACA deal cut last night.
There was no "deal" last night. Democrats lie.
 
Old 09-14-2017, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Posted by Donald J. Trump

Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military? Really!.....
3:28 AM - 14 Sep 2017 (twitter)


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Just took two DACA sisters to the Social Security office yesterday and they were both issued Social Security Cards. They will be in the mailbox in 7-10 days.

Tell me again how these are illegal immigrants or is the US Government under D. Trump issuing Social Security numbers illegally?

Anti DACA foamers, Your leader Trump just threw your asses under the bus.
 
Old 09-14-2017, 08:54 AM
Status: "Moldy Tater Gangrene, even before Moscow Marge." (set 5 days ago)
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Default Trump Confirms Support for Law to Protect 'Dreamers'

...and apparently WITHOUT a wall besides. Looks like the, let's call it "Trump Wall" will last for 28 fewer years than the one in Berlin! Seems that bellowing to the stratosphere about actual substantive issues would have been a more productive use of hot air.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/14/u...smtyp=cur&_r=0

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Originally Posted by New York Times
September 14, 2017

WASHINGTON — President Trump said on Thursday morning that he supports legislation that would protect young undocumented immigrants from deportation and would deliver a “massive” increase in border security — but not with a wall on the southern border.

That appeared to confirm the broad parameters of an agreement that Democratic leaders announced had been reached Wednesday over dinner at the White House.
Could Trump be a mere tempest in a teapot after all? Let's hope so!

Oh, did I forget to mention the term "flip-flop"?
 
Old 09-14-2017, 08:57 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Posted by Donald J. Trump

Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military? Really!.....
3:28 AM - 14 Sep 2017 (twitter)


HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

Just took two DACA sisters to the Social Security office yesterday and they were both issued Social Security Cards. They will be in the mailbox in 7-10 days.

Tell me again how these are illegal immigrants or is the US Government under D. Trump issuing Social Security numbers illegally?

Anti DACA foamers, Your leader Trump just threw your asses under the bus.
The joke's on you, and them...
Quote:
"DACA recipients are not eligible for federal aids and by getting a Social Security number, they may not become eligible to receive federal benefits."
DACA Recipients are Eligible for Social Security Cards, but not for Federal Benefits

And: 8 USC 1611
 
Old 09-14-2017, 08:57 AM
 
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And Trump also said the wall is being built NOW.

He qualifies that by saying repairs to existing barriers qualifies as working on the wall.

He wants to claim a win even if it is just repairs to existing structures.

Let him have it -- he needs it and it means nothing.
 
Old 09-14-2017, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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As somebody that can't stand Donald Trump and feels most of his presidency has been a disaster thus far...

This is great news. Well done, Mr. Trump. For me, this is the best thing I've heard from Trump since taking office

Wasting tens of BILLIONS of dollars on building wall would have been a yuge waste of money. I'm glad Trump was able to accept defeat, swallow his pride, and unintentionally lie to his voters....by not further pursuing the wall.

Trump supporters expected a wall, and Trump is NOT going to give it to them. That's cool with me.
 
Old 09-14-2017, 08:59 AM
 
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Old 09-14-2017, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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His base is not happy. But 80% of Americans are glad he finally caved on DACA.
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