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Old 09-13-2017, 10:57 AM
 
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For decades, a debate over lifetime appointments in the federal judiciary have pitted those who value freedom from political influence against those who see a need for accountability. The former want to continue the tradition, and the latter want either term limits, retention elections, or a combination of both, as many states have in place now. No serious effort has been made to propose such a system, but perhaps an “exit interview” by the New York Times’ Adam Liptak of retired appellate jurist Richard Posner will prompt one. And it should, as Posner inadvertently makes the best possible case for it:


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He called his approach to judging pragmatic. His critics called it lawless. “I pay very little attention to legal rules, statutes, constitutional provisions,” Judge Posner said. “A case is just a dispute. The first thing you do is ask yourself — forget about the law — what is a sensible resolution of this dispute?”
The next thing, he said, was to see if a recent Supreme Court precedent or some other legal obstacle stood in the way of ruling in favor of that sensible resolution. “And the answer is that’s actually rarely the case,” he said. “When you have a Supreme Court case or something similar, they’re often extremely easy to get around.”

Link: https://hotair.com/archives/2017/09/...ing-admission/


I'm not sure about ending lifetime appointments, especially NOW when there is a Republican President making lifetime appointments. If they are to be ended, ALL judges should be affected including the leftist extremists Obama stacked the bench with.


A better solution would be more stringent judicial oversight and discipline. A recent good place to start would be the judges who dictated U.S. immigration policy by issuing political decisions to halt Trump's travel ban. Such judges should be severely sanctioned if not removed rom the bench and disbarred.
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Why do you hate the Constitution?
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Yes there should be no life time appointments just like there should be term limits for congress.
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:03 AM
 
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Why do you hate the Constitution?
I assume you are posing the question to Judge Posner. I don't know why he hates the Constitution. He views it as an "obstacle" to getting the result he wants in a particular case.


Make the argument that someone like Judge Posner belongs on the bench.
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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The idea behind making the lifetime appointments was to remove them from the political arena which has been a total failure since the 1950's.

What we need is a President that will call them out telling them to go pound sand when they get it wrong as they so often do.

The cake thing is wrong.

Immigration is wrong; by the Constitution the President is within his right to protect the nation which is exactly what he did.
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:09 AM
 
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Lifetime appointments are to ensure the less likelihood of being corrupted by outside groups, however I do think there should be an annual metric that some professions ALREADY do to prove competence... the liberal judges will fail this test every year when it comes to defending the Constitution which is the only metric for that profession...
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:18 AM
 
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now that it is changing in the conservative direction I suppose there will be many people that will be crying for change.
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The court system has always worked rather well, we don't need to change it now because someone doesn't like the outcome. We don't need the Venezuelan model for our court system. We don't need to change our constitution now because the president doesn't like it, besides he just got his refugee ban from the courts so what's the issue.

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Old 09-13-2017, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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Well, isn't this an unbiased and open-minded discussion?

/sarcasm
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:28 AM
 
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The court system has always worked rather well, we don't need to change it now because someone doesn't like the outcome. We don't need to Venezuelan model for our court system. We don't need to change our constitution now because the president doesn't like it, besides he just got his refugee ban from the courts so what's the issue.
Meanwhile the calls for getting rid of the EC are deafening from the Left, even you have stated as such. Maybe this advice is in order:
"We don't need to change our constitution now because the Democrats lost an election."
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