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Old 09-18-2017, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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The logic behind protesting and being a "nuisance" is that when a citizen is over-punished (killed) for something petty and the police basically interrupt that person's life, the protesters are showing on some level what's it's like to have your day to day life interrupted and the frustration you feel when people, for example, block traffic and make you late for work. I figured everyone knew or understood this already since people fake outrage about the protests so much. Amazing what you learn when you actually pay attention to what people are protesting, why they are protesting, and how they are protesting and not just screaming that "people need to just go home and accept being murdered by a cop for anything".




But yeah, TLDR: it's about interrupting things and the anger you feel when it happens to you on a fraction of the level compared to police brutality.
I understand the motivation and could not possibly be more supportive of those trying to stop police brutality. The problem I have with blocking traffic is that it could end up costing another innocent life, if an ambulance or fire truck cannot get through. Also, being late for work, at some workplaces, is not merely an inconvenience - it can cause a person to be harshly disciplined, or even fired. While losing a job pales to insignificance in comparison to losing one's life, it still means any sympathy that person may have had for the issue at hand has likely been lost, perhaps forever. So...two potential issues here: one of morality and one of simply being counterproductive.
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Old 09-18-2017, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Protestors were largely responsible for the end of the Vietnam war.

Funny - how Tea Partiers were spitting in the faces of people as they gathered to "protest" a decent health care for all. ....but now, all of a sudden, they don't think it accomplishes anything?

For the record, though, these particular protests are probably just pent up rage....but for a reason still. They may do no good whatsoever except let steam off. But that is important too.

My feeling is that those in that area of the country (the power - which is largely white power) are unlikely to change much. Minorities who want a good life may have to do what they have always done - and move somewhere that this level of racism doesn't exist.
The capture of Saigon by the North Vietnamese Army in April 1975 marked the end of the war, it wasn't b/c people protested it.
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Old 09-18-2017, 01:03 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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What do Protesters Honestly Hope to Accomplish?


Unimportant crybabies and whiners, hoping to fool people into believing they have something relevant to say.
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Old 09-18-2017, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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What do Protesters Honestly Hope to Accomplish?


Unimportant crybabies and whiners, hoping to fool people into believing they have something relevant to say.

You consider the deaths of unarmed people at the hands of police to be unimportant? That's kind of sick.
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:37 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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We in the US have two problems. We have a community of youths who are idolizing criminals on one hand and under-trained
youth LEO's who react too quickly to situations. Thus we have a youth community who has amnesia to what these criminals do to their communities where most of them cannot walk in the streets where they live at night. On the other hand we have LE who attempt to make the streets safe to walk at night where some of them get shot at during the course of the night. Due to a lack of training of LEO's they are overreacting to each situation instead of going into each situation with a clear head and dealing with each situation on a case by case situation. Anthony Lamar Smith was a criminal, period. Jason Stockley overreacted to the situation and the DA charged him incorrectly for the shooting, leading to verdict that anyone with common sense knew was going to happen.

As a gun owner, I can state that for to be a absence of Smith's DNA is nearly impossible as everyone handles their gun's. IMO it was a plant.
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:40 PM
 
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Fed agencies were under the Obama administration and were run by Blacks.
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:40 PM
 
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We in the US have two problems. We have a community of youths who are idolizing criminals on one hand and under-trained
youth LEO's who react too quickly to situations. Thus we have a youth community who has amnesia to what these criminals do to their communities where most of them cannot walk in the streets where they live at night. On the other hand we have LE who attempt to make the streets safe to walk at night where some of them get shot at during the course of the night. Due to a lack of training of LEO's they are overreacting to each situation instead of going into each situation with a clear head and dealing with each situation on a case by case situation. Anthony Lamar Smith was a criminal, period. Jason Stockley overreacted to the situation and the DA charged him incorrectly for the shooting, leading to verdict that anyone with common sense knew was going to happen.

As a gun owner, I can state that for to be a absence of Smith's DNA is nearly impossible as everyone handles their gun's. IMO it was a plant.
He was a convicted drug dealer out on probation and should not have had a gun.
Maybe he kept it clean for that reason..that and maybe it was stolen. No fingerprints, no charges should he get stopped. He could deny knowing the gun was there.

Not all criminals are stupid.
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:44 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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I tend to agree, honestly. Yes, I was disappointed in the outcome of the trial. And I'm all for bringing light to a situation via social media, peaceful protests at a park or in front of a municipal building. But what are liberals, BLM, and ANTIFA hoping to accomplish by blocking traffic?

Just like the KKK and White Nationalists in Virginia. Standing in formation with tiki torches, shouting "Jews will not replace us." What are they hoping to accomplish?
There is no "Just like". The White Nationalists in Virginia had their parade in a empty field where the observers were MSM and LE. If it weren't for the so-called small group of students on Friday night who antagonized them, they would have had their meet and greet and would've gone back to their hotel rooms w/o incident.
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:55 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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He was a convicted drug dealer out on probation and should not have had a gun. Maybe he kept it clean for that reason..that and maybe it was stolen. No fingerprints, no charges should he get stopped. He could deny knowing the gun was there.

Not all criminals are stupid.
It has nothing to do with stupidity. A criminal at this level is not that anal to wipe his gun squeaky clean each time he handles it. Every criminal knows that being caught with a gun in addition to another crime will exponentially grow the charge against them. Don't confuse street dealers with distributors.
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Protestors were largely responsible for the end of the Vietnam war.

Funny - how Tea Partiers were spitting in the faces of people as they gathered to "protest" a decent health care for all. ....but now, all of a sudden, they don't think it accomplishes anything?

For the record, though, these particular protests are probably just pent up rage....but for a reason still. They may do no good whatsoever except let steam off. But that is important too.

My feeling is that those in that area of the country (the power - which is largely white power) are unlikely to change much. Minorities who want a good life may have to do what they have always done - and move somewhere that this level of racism doesn't exist.
If your only skills are rioting and living off welfare, nobody wants them. Asian minorities make significantly more on average than whites. Blacks in America are much better off than blacks in Africa.

You're comparing protestors that you claim largely led to the end of the war to rioters destroying property that don't like a verdict, it's not going to be upturned.
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