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Old 09-23-2017, 09:40 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Nothing like closing the gate after the horses ran away.
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Old 09-23-2017, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Lake Grove
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Yup, and radical "religious" conservative loons in this nation who basically have no problem with the same idea. Oh, they pretend to "support gays" on this thread just because they hate Muslims more than they hate gays, but don't kid yourself - right-wingers in this nation hate them both.

There is no difference in the mindset and intent of a right-wing "Christian" and a right-wing "Muslim" when it comes to using religion to justify bigotry, and if given the opportunity, both groups would take the violence as far as they could.
I know plenty of religious conservatives who absolutely LOVE my spouse and me.

I know of a gay pastor and his partner who go to a straight parishioner's home on Sundays to watch football.
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Old 09-23-2017, 09:43 AM
 
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The main stream Right doesn't throw gay people off roofs and roll over them with heavy equipment.


I say they are smart to question the motives of the Left who seemingly wants to embrace islam but how does that leave room for gay people?
I agree. It doesn't leave room for women or the LGBT community. Once they did that I realized that rights weren't the reason anymore, it was just hate that drove their decisions and acceptance. If you hate Trump you're in. I left as well. I went the independent route.
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Old 09-23-2017, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Lake Grove
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Nope. Hitler was a tyrant - technically neither "left" or "right," though given how many right-wingers love Trump, who loves tyrants, I'd say Hitler has more common with the far right than the far left. Oh, and let's not forget how the Neo-Nazis and KKK all voted for Trump, a right-winger.

It amazes me that in this day and age people can be so ignorant to think that just because the Nazi party had the word "socialist" in it, that they clearly are "left-wingers." Come on, man... they never were socialist, or do you think that because the People's Republic of China has the word "Republic" in it, they have the same form of government as the US, also a Republic? Ugh...
Right wingers don't take away people's guns in order to have more control, only left wingers do that. Hitler was a socialist. It wasn't that long ago. Stop swallowing all the anti Trump hysteria. There's very little nazi kkk a******s anymore. Trump doesn't support them, that's all anti Trump hysteria, the media spouts lies and half truths and spin all the time because they just blindly despise him. Try listening to the other side some time. Read quotes IN context, read clarifications, understand that not everyone speaks like an erudite intellectual with perfectly eloquent, politically correct speech. Some people are blunt and straightforward. I prefer that.
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Old 09-23-2017, 09:48 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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So, you're saying the ones that follow the teachings of Muhammad and the Koran?
The ones who take literal interpretations of old scripts and like to use religion to punish those who look, act, or think differently from them. In other words, ideological conservatives.
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Old 09-23-2017, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Lake Grove
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Why don't you test your theory? Go to the most right-wing fundamentalist Christian place you can think of -- somewhere in the Deep South, perhaps? -- and announce that you are gay. Then go to pretty much any Muslim country, especially those in the Middle East, and say the same thing. Report back on your findings.
Stop getting in people's faces, that's not the way to convert them to tolerance. Living the example of regular decent people who happen to be gay is the way to do it, and that is what won people over. Stop worrying about a church in the south. Not everyone is gonna like you, gay or not. Or will you not be satisfied until you can be inaugurated President (having won 100% of the popular vote) in your Cher ensemble?
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Old 09-23-2017, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Lake Grove
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The ones who take literal interpretations of old scripts and like to use religion to punish those who look, act, or think differently from them. In other words, ideological conservatives.
And where is that happening, except one place in recent history that has been over hyped by our media ad nauseam? Where is the media outrage at Antifa? Must we wait until Antifa causes actual deaths before they finally condemn increasing violence from the far left? Or, will they keep minimizing Antifa and circle the wagons around it?
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Old 09-23-2017, 09:58 AM
 
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I agree. It doesn't leave room for women or the LGBT community. Once they did that I realized that rights weren't the reason anymore, it was just hate that drove their decisions and acceptance. If you hate Trump you're in. I left as well. I went the independent route.
It's sorta funny how anything and everything that opposes Trump somehow gets brought in under the left's umbrella. That schism between the party and ordinary Americans is why Dems keep taking L's.
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Old 09-23-2017, 10:01 AM
 
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I figured it was a matter of time before this gay/Muslim issue surfaced given the Muslim view on gays.
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Old 09-23-2017, 10:28 AM
 
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It hasn't made me become right wing. I understand the right wing hasn't do me any good in the USA.
To be fair: a LOT of mild "liberals" WOULD be called "alt right" in 2017 by the alt left libs.
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