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I provide the WORLD'S LARGEST STUDY on children of gay parents...
Or maybe you like this better....
still not convinced?
LETS GO META...
Now i could do this all day, but frankly those who are dug in are not going to be swayed by facts and research are they?
Tell you what - find some first hand testimony of adults who have lived in those households, and we let's see what we come up with. Not listening to studies, because people can skew studies. And if they are interviewing kids, they won't know any better - or will be pressured to answer a certain way.
B.N. Klein, Robert Oscar Lopez, Dawn Stefanowicz, and Katy Faust all grew up with homosexual parents. All four argued that redefining marriage to include same-sex couples would harm children by depriving them of a mother or father.
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“I wasn’t surrounded by average heterosexual couples,” she says in her court brief. “Dad’s partners slept and ate in our home, and they took me along to meeting places in the LGBT communities. I was exposed to overt sexual activities like sodomy, nudity, pornography, group sex, sadomasochism and the ilk.”
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“I grew up with a parent and her partner[s] in an atmosphere in which gay ideology was used as a tool of repression, retribution and abuse,” B.N. Klein wrote of her experience with a lesbian mother. “I have seen that children in gay households often become props to be publicly displayed to prove that gay families are just like heterosexual ones.”
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Robert Oscar Lopez who was also raised by a lesbian mother and her partner, had a different experience which he described as the “best possible conditions for a child raised by a same-sex couple.”
“Had I been formally studied by same-sex parenting ‘experts’ in 1985, I would have confirmed their rosiest estimations of LGBT family life,” Lopez wrote, but then went on to argue against same-sex marriage saying that, “behind these facades of a happy ‘outcome’ lay many problems.”
He describes experiencing a great deal of sexual confusion due to the lack of a father figure in his life. He turned to a life of prostitution with older men as a teenager.
I wanted to find out about the source of this story. I never heard of "CNS News" but brief research I found this:
"CNSNews.com is a politically conservative American news and commentary website founded by L. Brent Bozell III and owned by Media Research Center, ..."
LOL, figures. They probably had to dig deep to find this story. I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of a hit to their website.
From by observation during my 6 decades on this planet is overwhelming loving lesbian parents. I wish I was raised in that manner.
On that note I wish my mother turned lesbian and dumped my worthless father. No doubt I would have had a way better childhood and a better life. I learned how not to be a man from my abusive religious father so wrong to assume children automatically have happy childhoods with traditional parents.
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Not that many of you want to hear it, but God knew what He was doing when He designed us.
Laughable to me the idea of a god as I see no evidence whatsoever. "He designed us." Oh my, too funny!
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Wonder how many would be okay with two men raising a girl or a bunch of girls.
Who cares?
Do you think the only thing stopping men from banging little girls is the presence of a woman? People who think like that are the ones who really have problems. Maybe revealing a bit too much about themselves and their own disorders.
Let's ask the foster children if they would rather be vagabonds going from home to home or if they would prefer a same sex couple that loved and cared for them.
While speaking in Australia's Parliament against initiatives to legalize gay "marriage," Millie Fontana, a donor-conceived child of lesbian parents, said it is a "misconception" that all children reared by gays are "stable and happy," and added there was not a moment in her childhood she "did not crave that male stability and that father in my life."
When, at age 11, she finally met her father, it was "one of the happiest days of my life," she said, because she saw her "heritage" and her "other family" -- uncles, aunts, grandparents.
Fontana further said the push for "marriage equality" in Australia does not mean equality for children, but solely "equality for adults."
Not that many of you want to hear it, but God knew what He was doing when He designed us.
She is not the first one to make these claims. Read the entire testimony from someone who has lived this.
That's a subject that is rarely discussed, but should be paramount. The issues about same-sex couples having children, is mostly about their rights and freedom, while those of the children, aren't given much consideration.
I wanted to find out about the source of this story. I never heard of "CNS News" but brief research I found this:
"CNSNews.com is a politically conservative American news and commentary website founded by L. Brent Bozell III and owned by Media Research Center, ..."
LOL, figures. They probably had to dig deep to find this story. I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of a hit to their website.
From by observation during my 6 decades on this planet is overwhelming loving lesbian parents. I wish I was raised in that manner.
On that note I wish my mother turned lesbian and dumped my worthless father. No doubt I would have had a way better childhood and a better life. I learned how not to be a man from my abusive religious father so wrong to assume children automatically have happy childhoods with traditional parents.
Laughable to me the idea of a god as I see no evidence whatsoever. "He designed us." Oh my, too funny!
Regardless of the source - there are names and actual quotes in what I provided - not a nameless study with very little detail that comes from a group supporting the issue.
Here's one of the people in that article writing his own in depth article.
Quite simply, growing up with gay parents was very difficult, and not because of prejudice from neighbors. People in our community didn’t really know what was going on in the house. To most outside observers, I was a well-raised, high-achieving child, finishing high school with straight A's.
Inside, however, I was confused. When your home life is so drastically different from everyone around you, in a fundamental way striking at basic physical relations, you grow up weird. I have no mental health disorders or biological conditions. I just grew up in a house so unusual that I was destined to exist as a social outcast.
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Gay people who grew up in straight parents’ households may have struggled with their sexual orientation; but when it came to the vast social universe of adaptations not dealing with sexuality—how to act, how to speak, how to behave—they had the advantage of learning at home. Many gays don’t realize what a blessing it was to be reared in a traditional home.
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When I got to college, I set off everyone’s “gaydar” and the campus LGBT group quickly descended upon me to tell me it was 100-percent certain I must be a homosexual. When I came out as bisexual, they told everyone I was lying and just wasn’t ready to come out of the closet as gay yet. Frightened and traumatized by my mother’s death, I dropped out of college in 1990 and fell in with what can only be called the gay underworld. Terrible things happened to me there.
It was not until I was twenty-eight that I suddenly found myself in a relationship with a woman, through coincidences that shocked everyone who knew me and surprised even myself. I call myself bisexual because it would take several novels to explain how I ended up “straight” after almost thirty years as a gay man. I don’t feel like dealing with gay activists skewering me the way they go on search-and-destroy missions against ex-gays, “closet cases,” or "homocons."
Forty-one years I’d lived, and nobody—least of all gay activists—had wanted me to speak honestly about the complicated gay threads of my life.
My wife and I bought the current house that we own from two lesbians who had two little toddler daughters. When I walked into the house the little girls crawled over to me, I was a complete stranger to them yet they actually seemed to vie for my attention. I picked one of them up after she raised her arms and she sat on the crook of my arm like she had known me since birth. One of the women said she always does that when men are around. The other woman looked a little annoyed when she said this.
Wonder how many would be okay with two men raising a girl or a bunch of girls.
Only an idiot thinks that two men automatically mean they want to diddle little girls. Why even ask something like that?
I couldn't care less. Having two loving parents, regardless of sex is far more important than one of them having a vagina and the other a penis. It's like the other idiot in this thread saying that any two parents of opposite sex are better than all gay parents. You folks are demented.
Regardless of the source - there are names and actual quotes in what I provided.
I have zero interest in reading articles from biased conservative web sites.
I have no doubt what I quoted above from you is true. Plenty of dysfunctional children from straight parents as well. I wrote a true testimony of what it was like for me and there are many, many others who had very poor childhoods as well being raised by straight parents...
Again and always. Those who have no real data always use anecdotes. Same tactic as the crimes of illegal aliens. All the real statistics say aliens commit crimes at lower rates than natives. But the opponents always cite anecdotes.
Same here. All studies tend to show gay couples do a better job than hetero. On many of these it may well be that gays have more money...which is generally true. But even after you correct for socioeconomic status it is still true. And the response you make is anecdotes. Of course their are children of gays who ended up hating their life style. Go out and interview the children of heterosexual parents who were swingers...find out how they liked that...
None of the three gay couples among my nieces and nephews have children and they are all old enough now it is unlikely. But I am among the opinion that they would all have been good parents. Just good people.
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