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Originally Posted by Taratova
And they used to put cocaine in coke. Man can rationalize much and still believe they are a conservative. Jefferson was a very complex man and he believed in God.
But not necessarily in organized religion.
"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose." ______ Thomas Jefferson
I see this happening on MSNBC and CNN. I have my own brain. No one has to clue me in. There is reasons why the MSM is brainwashing the masses. Many are used politically and don 't even know it.
Disrespecting our flag 'our country is used by the media. They will of course side with those who will not stand and disrespect the flag. I read them like a book I read before. Opened borders, division of people by race, class . It is all planned out. Distorting the Founding fathers in a very negative way,our history, taking our guns. It is so clear. Next attacking the Constitution and those that penned it. It is coming.
I don't know if I would put it quite like that. Maybe, ahhh, FUNDAMENTAL TRANSFORMATION. Now, where have I heard that before???
The fact a U.S. President thought so poorly of his own country that he beleived it needed Fundamental Transformation is beyond even my capacity for the surreal. What he meant by that is increasing the number of people dependent on government, and therefore making them more easily controlled, and manipulated.
Here is an excerpt from a Bill O' Reilly interview putting the "fundamental transformation" you seem angry about into it's proper context. Because context matters.
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O’Reilly: OK. I got a letter from Kathy LaMaster, Fresno, Calif. I said I would read one letter from the folks, all right?
Obama: All right.
O’Reilly: "Mr. President, why do you feel it's necessary to fundamentally transform the nation that has afforded you so much opportunity and success?"
Obama: I don't think we have to fundamentally transform the nation.
O’Reilly: But those are your words.
Obama: I think that what we have to do is make sure that here in America, if you work hard, you can get ahead. Bill, you and I benefitted from this incredible country of ours, in part, because there were good jobs out there that paid a good wage, because you had public schools that functioned well, that we could get scholarships if we didn't come from a wealthy family, in order to go to college.
O’Reilly: Right.
Obama: That, you know, if you worked hard, not only did you have a good job, but you also had decent benefits, decent health care...
O’Reilly: They're cutting me off...
Obama: -- and for a lot of folks, we don't have that. We've got to make sure that we're doing everything we can to expand the middle class...
O’Reilly: All right...
Obama: -- and work hard and people who are working hard can get into the middle class.
O’Reilly: I think -- I -- you know, I know you think maybe we haven't been fair, but I think your heart is in the right place.
Here’s Obama’s original statement, in an October 2008 campaign visit to Columbia, Mo:
"Now, Mizzou, I just have two words for you tonight: five days. Five days. After decades of broken politics in Washington, and eight years of failed policies from George W. Bush, and 21 months of a campaign that's taken us from the rocky coast of Maine to the sunshine of California, we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.
"In five days, you can turn the page on policies that put greed and irresponsibility on Wall Street before the hard work and sacrifice of folks on Main Street. [cough] bull**** [/cough] In five days, you can choose policies that invest in our middle class, and create new jobs, and grow this economy, so that everyone has a chance to succeed, not just the CEO, but the secretary and janitor, not just the factory owner, but the men and women on the factory floor."
I voted for Perot myself - BUT, in the long term he was not correct. Sure, we should have sane trade and domestic policies, but history shows...without exception....that the top trading countries have done the best.
Take a real poll among Americans today and ask how many want their children working for 30 years on an assembly line....my guess is that very few of us desire this type of work for our kin. But I might be wrong.
I have been a blue collar worker and a white collar worker. When I was a teen I worked in a clothing factory. It wasn't hard work and I performed many different jobs where I was needed.
I also had an office in my white collar career. I worked with supervisors of different branches who worked under my boss.
I remember I went to a class when I was very young and the woman talked about blue collar vs white collar. She very intuitively knew she has a wide dichotomy of people who came to her seminar. She spoke about the rewards of both different classes. Those who worked with skills where many blue collar workers exceeded the earnings of white collar workers. The trade off was white collar workers were looked upon as more successful but financially they were not better off than many blue collar workers.
Take a real poll among Americans today and ask how many want their children working for 30 years on an assembly line....my guess is that very few of us desire this type of work for our kin. But I might be wrong.
Not everyone's child can be above average (contrary to popular belief). What is better for the average American? Working on an assembly line for $20/hr or working at McDonald's or Wal-Mart for $7.50/hr?
Not everyone's child can be above average (contrary to popular belief). What is better for the average American? Working on an assembly line for $20/hr or working at McDonald's or Wal-Mart for $7.50/hr?
Sadly we can just look around and see the answer to that one.
The liberal professors have been turning out many liberal minded people for decades.. Our news comes out of the most liberal areas of our country. NYC is 90% liberal. I don't feed off of the liberal garbage coming out of NYC.
And 37 percent of Silicon Valley foreign-born area residents of California are foreign born. The spew and garbage coming out of this area isn't even from Americans.
Yes. Humans have learned how to use religion, racism, and patriotism to get people to go against their own interests. And the suckers just keep on falling for it, from generation to generation.
I'm not sure about that. How do you know religion, racism and patriotism are not more important issues to a lot of people to start with, more so than jobs, education and good roads to drive on?
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"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose." ______ Thomas Jefferson
Meaning no one should force anyone to be a Christian. I agree as a Christian with Thomas Jefferson.. No where in the bible does it say we are to force anyone to believe . It clearly states in the bible it is the choice to believe or not believe. One cannot force someone to believe.
It is the Holy Spirit that draws men to God only.
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