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Old 10-12-2017, 12:13 PM
 
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waldo ignores facts, we have seen her do this many many times.
Ad Hominem Fallacy.

And you didn't address a single thing I posted.


Competition is good. Even a caveman knows this.
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:14 PM
 
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what reg getting axed was it that delighted your friend? Because whenever i hear a story of a business person "thrilled" regs are slashed, nobody can tell me the exact reg that made them happy.

until you explain it, it is fake.
Reminds me of "If you like your Doctor, you can Keep your Doctor".

This is why Trump is President and not Hillary.
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:16 PM
 
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cool story, but you ignore premiums have been increasing fast the last few decades and even with all the increases premiums are not higher than they would have been without ACA.

BUT (its a big but)

BUT, the coverage is vastly better and more folks have it....


in short

Rs... you pay a lot and get very little.

Ds ... you pay a lot and get a lot.


nobody has a solution where people pay a little and get a lot , that solution requires a universal system which scares the GOP as they need a riled up insecure base to get votes. Give those folks real employment rights and healthcare and the GOP would have no supporters....

Yes, they have been rising fast, but not 220% fast..in the last 3 years.....


The rest is just drivel....insecure base.....
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:17 PM
 
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Reminds me of "If you like your Doctor, you can Keep your Doctor".

This is why Trump is President and not Hillary.
you didn't address my points.



Trump's new EO is likely to go nowhere, but if it does it will hurt Red state older or ill really hard.


Full Blue states will knock him back.
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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The rest is just drivel....insecure base.....
Rates are up over 120% in NC in the past 3 years. That is flabberghasting when you consider that inflation is about 4% over the same period.

Obamacare is a disaster of huge numbers of working people and for small business trying to help. It's the #1 reason that more than 1000 Democrats have lost their seats with more to come.


BCBS asks to raise ACA rates 23% in 2018 | News & Observer



Trump will be hitting a home run with this move.
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:22 PM
 
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you didn't address my points.
That you hate Trump? We already know this.

Trump wins with his base on this no matter how much you try to tell us otherwise.
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:22 PM
 
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Trump just found a way to turn his own base against him and he is so dumb he is taking as much credit as he can for his new cross state borders EO.
Nah, he has no qualms sabotaging and undermining the law. He'll blame it on Obama, and his loyalists will believe every word.
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:25 PM
 
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you didn't address my points.

Trump's new EO is likely to go nowhere, but if it does it will hurt Red state older or ill really hard.

Full Blue states will knock him back.
So glad I live in a blue state that has no patience for Trump, especially on issues like this.
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:25 PM
 
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Can't feel bad for red states, they got what they voted for.
Do you feel the same way about the people in PR who kept voting for corrupt people who got them into the mess they are in now?
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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Nah, he has no qualms sabotaging and undermining the law. He'll blame it on Obama, and his loyalists will believe every word.
Yet the Supreme Court continues to side with Trump.
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