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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty
Nope
I voted for Obama. I don't hate him. He turned out to be a horrible president however. I'm not married to political dogma, that's why I didn't vote for Obama a 2nd time. Just like NC where I live.
Wrong again burdell.
So tell us: IF Donny's XO on healthcare is such a great move, WHY didn't he do it immediately upon taking office? You know, when he said he'd repeal Obamacare? What's the defense for that lie?
HINT: Being incapable of leading his Congress controlling party is not a valid excuse.
So tell us: IF Donny's XO on healthcare is such a great move, WHY didn't he do it immediately upon taking office? You know, when he said he'd repeal Obamacare? What's the defense for that lie?
HINT: Being incapable of leading his Congress controlling party is not a valid excuse.
He doesn't have the wide majority like Obama had his first two years. Trump is hated by the Establishment Republicans that control both houses. They want him to fail because they are just like Democrats. More government, big government hypocrites.
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty
Nope
I voted for Obama. I don't hate him. He turned out to be a horrible president however. I'm not married to political dogma, that's why I didn't vote for Obama a 2nd time. Just like NC where I live.
Wrong again burdell.
Voting for Obama in 2008 by no means precludes hating him now, and you certainly vent frequently about him based on opinion and not fact. You may say he as a horrible president but that;'s your O-P-I-N-I-O-N and nothing else. Doesn't sound like you're ready to sit down and sing Kumbaya with him anytime soon.
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He doesn't have the wide majority like Obama had his first two years. Trump is hated by the Establishment Republicans that control both houses. They want him to fail because they are just like Democrats. More government, big government hypocrites.
HINT: You are clueless.
Thank You, coming from you it's a compliment and exactly my feeling about your opinions.
And BTW, WHAT a lame excuse for your little con-man's failings. The reality is the GOP fronted him as their candidate and they own him and all of his BS. Congratulations!
Trump promised a solid appointment to SCOTUS. that has been done.
Are you really giving credit to Trump for appointing Gorsuch? Why? You can give credit to McConnell for stymieing Garland or even to Trump insofar that his message won him the election, but to tout it as some type of presidential achievement? Not buying it. Once the sun came up on November 9, Gorsuch was in regardless of what Trump did or did not do. Trump didn't know Gorsuch from Adam until he was told that he is the guy getting nominated.
If Trump wants to replace Obamacare, fine, then do it, but don't lobotomize the law just because you can't make good on your promises to replace Obamacare. It's the poor that suffer, they become political pawns so Trump can pressure Democrats to support the next attempt to replace Obamacare. Despite having a Republican majority at least twice (or is it three times) attempts to replace Obamacare failed while Trump was president.
Are you really giving credit to Trump for appointing Gorsuch? Why? You can give credit to McConnell for stymieing Garland or even to Trump insofar that his message won him the election, but to tout it as some type of presidential achievement? Not buying it. Once the sun came up on November 9, Gorsuch was in regardless of what Trump did or did not do. Trump didn't know Gorsuch from Adam until he was told that he is the guy getting nominated.
I really deeply do not care what you are buying. seriously.
if you re-read, I gave credit to Trump for beating Hillary and Nominating Gorsuch. those in tandem. those two being all I need to remain indebted to Trump for the rest of my life. He saved America. period.
and further, if that's all you took out of a long post that gave detail on all of Trumps agenda and an unbiased view that he has been both successful and has failed.... I just don't think you and I have a bases to discuss the issues.
I do realize that giving credit to Trump on anything is exactly the same as cutting your still beating heart out of your chest, but that's your issue not mine. I do not suffer from Trump derangement syndrome
The Fat Man was fond of saying how BO couldn't get anything done and therefore was governing by Executive Order. Well facts are stubborn things, and based on his roughly 10 months in office he has signed 50 EO's.
At the same time in his tenure (first 10 months) BO had only signed 29 EO's while also passing major legislation. What a fraud and hypocrite we have occupying the WH!
Conservatives are the epitome of disgusting hypocrites. If Obama did a single thing Trump has done, they'd have called for his impeachment, but Trump can get away with thousands of egregious actions. It's obvious Obama's race is a major factor. Conservatives can't handle that a black man was in the White House.
Let me add this to the discussion. For a lot of Trump voters, Trumps presidency isn't about what he gets done legislatively so much as it is about burning down the republican house. if ACA doesn't get repealed, but McConnell is out of power and a big bunch of republican cowards are 1. forced out, or 2. primary-ed out of office then Trump is successful.
As much as a lot of republican voters do not like liberalism or what they see being done to the culture by progressives, they dislike, distrust, and flat loath the cowards in the party that have promised and promised and never delivered.
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