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Give it up. Capitalism fails as a mechanism to provide health care. Simply does not work.
Proof is obvious to those who will look...
How can any rational being suggest we are doing well while spending far more for a lesser result?
The problem with your argument is that our healthcare system is far from one of free enterprise. It's been a hybrid system, with excessive government involvement for decades. A truly free enterprise, market based system would provide greater choices at a lower price.
I shouldn't have to do that with how hard I work and what I earn.
Actually, you should. That's the point. No one "deserves" a certain standard of living because they "believe" they work hard.
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What's the point of busting butt to better yourself if you aren't going to see a QOL increase for it?
Personal responsibility. And because doing so pays off over time. There is no such thing as instant gratification, unless one has actually EARNED it for oneself.
The problem with your argument is that our healthcare system is far from one of free enterprise. It's been a hybrid system, with excessive government involvement for decades. A truly free enterprise, market based system would provide greater choices at a lower price.
Irrelevant argument. We are not considering any such propositions. And the best running systems are those run by big companies and Medicare which has the highest government involvement. Now if you banned employer supplied health care or health care insurance the free enterprise system might have a shot but mostly it would form into cartels that would resemble the present insurance companies and would pick off 20% of the revenue as it went past and control treatment. You really think such an arrangement would be better than Medicare?
the nature of health care prevents any real free enterprise solution. You going out for bids while having a heart attack? So you buy into some Medical Service.
Sorry, I'll need to call BS on this one. There is no logical reason to even mention VAT when talking about what pays for HC.
How do you propose the extra $3.2 trillion/year to cover Medicare for All be funded?
(Source for annual extra federal spending cost: the Urban Institute)
How can any rational being suggest we are doing well while spending far more for a lesser result?
We subsidize R&D costs for the health care advances from which the rest of the world benefits. If we stop selling the rest of the world pharmaceuticals and medical equipment at cut rate prices and charge them what we have to pay here in the US, there'd be more funding for health care here in the US.
How do you propose the extra $3.2 trillion/year to cover Medicare for All be funded?
(Source for annual extra federal spending cost: the Urban Institute)
Easy. Simply collect what the US citizenry pays now. If we do it cleverly we can probably save a few hundred billion reasonably quickly. The 3.2 trillion is what we spend now so there is no new spending. Simply need to redirect the flow through a better set of channels.
Easy. Simply collect what the US citizenry pays now.
The US citizenry doesn't pay that now. Employers and local and state governments pay most of it.
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If we do it cleverly we can probably save a few hundred billion reasonably quickly. The 3.2 trillion is what we spend now so there is no new spending. Simply need to redirect the flow through a better set of channels.
No, the $3.2 trillion/year is IN ADDITION TO what the Fed Gov already spends on Medicare and Medicaid, which is about $1.2 trillion/year. Why so much extra? About 30 million people are currently still uninsured.
We subsidize R&D costs for the health care advances from which the rest of the world benefits. If we stop selling the rest of the world pharmaceuticals and medical equipment at cut rate prices and charge them what we have to pay here in the US, there'd be more funding for health care here in the US.
First of all many of the major pharma and med. equipment companies are not based in US. Next time you go in a MR scanner note the manufacturer.
About the "cut rate prices" abroad - the prices are inflated here, that is one of the problems.
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