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Old 10-27-2017, 12:43 PM
 
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by Andrew Sullivan.

This Is What the Trump Abyss Looks Like

Will not be of interest to Trump's supporters--they are firmly under the dark spell of Trump, no matter what he says or does, and reason and facts are not relevant--but perhaps will be to others.
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Old 10-27-2017, 12:48 PM
 
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i've already read all the Andrew Sullivan i need for one lifetime

but if you can give a 1-paragraph tl;dr i can probably spare time for that
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:10 PM
 
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When I see the NY Magazine header, I know all that follows will be left wing propaganda and that I don't need to read more.
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I skimmed the article and my impressions was what a bunch of doo doo.


The only abyss that is happening right now is the one that is opening up under the Clintons concerning the Russia collusion mess of a scandal or should we call it a "matter" ?

The media is ignoring this scandal and instead continue to point fingers at Trump for whatever the drummed up outrage is today. I have lost track of what I'm supposed to be shocked at.

There is not a "dark spell of Trump" but instead they are Patriotic people that have their eyes open and felt genuine concern for America. I am one of those deplorables and everyday I awake happy that despite how many times that Trump has jammed his foot into his mouth he is NOT Hillary.
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:27 PM
 
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tldr summary:

Its a amalgamation of everything said by most of the left and central posters here, and does mention some of the nonsense brought up by the far right. If you are a regular reader here, there really is nothing of interest in the article. Its all been said here.
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:43 PM
 
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I read up to the lament that trump is dismantling liberalism.

I chuckled and stopped there feeling good about his disillusionment.
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:43 PM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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" a single raging id" that is so correct. But we need not fear, RWNJs are a minority whom Dear Leader has conflated with some sort of coronation. There are more of us than them, we just need a decent candidate to rally around, then we will sweep this rabble back under the rock it crawled out from under.
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:50 PM
 
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by Andrew Sullivan.

This Is What the Trump Abyss Looks Like

Will not be of interest to Trump's supporters--they are firmly under the dark spell of Trump, no matter what he says or does, and reason and facts are not relevant--but perhaps will be to others.
This will mean nothing to Trump supporters they have had 10-20 years of FOX whispering in their ears and telling them that the ends justify the means. Many of them know that much of what they are saying is built of lies, but they tell themselves that it does not matter and that they are still good people even as they smear innocent and honest Americans.

I don't know where this will finish, but it seems pretty certain the left is going to follow suit and become as lost and full of lies as the right. We can see the left learning in real time, we can see the left taking the first steps towards mirroring the hateful on the right.

the saving grace for the left is we run the economy and have a lot more money than the right could ever hope to have, it is just a pity we will have to start using it for politics instead of cancer research and charitable works.....
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:51 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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i've already read all the Andrew Sullivan i need for one lifetime

but if you can give a 1-paragraph tl;dr i can probably spare time for that

Me too!
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Old 10-27-2017, 05:52 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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When I see the NY Magazine header, I know all that follows will be left wing propaganda and that I don't need to read more.
Yep.
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