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Old 11-08-2017, 07:01 PM
 
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So, a dead person is only dead when killed by a rifle/pistol/shotgun/longarm/firearm.....
There are many ways one can die, but whether you choose to admit it or not, violent death by firearms is a daily occurrence, and mass death by firearms is on its way to becoming a weekly occurrence. Sugar coat it anyway you want but this is a consequence of the pervasiveness of these type of weapons. Ignoring this problem is not an option.

 
Old 11-08-2017, 07:02 PM
 
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She isn't going by emotion. She gave you facts. You just didn't like them.
Maybe. I only read the part addressed to me. That was emotional. Cheers!
 
Old 11-08-2017, 07:02 PM
 
Location: PSL
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There are many ways one can die, but whether you choose to admit it or not, violent death by firearms is a daily occurrence, and mass death by firearms is on its way to becoming a weekly occurrence. Sugar coat it anyway you want but this is a consequence of the pervasiveness of these type of weapons. Ignoring this problem is not an option.
These types of weapons shall not be restricted regulated etc.

The types of people who abuse them on the other hand go for it.
 
Old 11-08-2017, 07:07 PM
 
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I agree. I'd like to see a repeal of the Second Amendment, but since that's unlikely, I'm hopeful that states will put sensible limits on the access to guns. We can't go on with this rate of mass shootings.
 
Old 11-08-2017, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Trump Pentagon pick: 'Insane' civilians can buy assault rifles - CNNPolitics

So said Trump's pentagon nominee.

Let's see Trump fans spin this "Fake news!"
define assault rifle
 
Old 11-08-2017, 07:12 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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You're still defeating your argument...

Doesn't he though. As soon as "under command of the federal government" comes in the NG as militia just fails. Miserably. The militia intended by the 2A is individual citizens with privately owned firearms who can assemble and organize under their own auspices, selecting their own chain of command and for purposes to be determined by them.


The federal government has no authority over the militia that the militia does not grant it. And it need not grant any authority. The ability of communities to form militia armed and equipped from private inventories is the intent. Thus communities can defend against a threat when that threat arises. Not when the feds say to and decide to hand out arms and equipment.


That notion is just ludicrous. And the SCOTUS thought so to.
 
Old 11-08-2017, 07:14 PM
 
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There are many ways one can die, but whether you choose to admit it or not, violent death by firearms is a daily occurrence, and mass death by firearms is on its way to becoming a weekly occurrence. Sugar coat it anyway you want but this is a consequence of the pervasiveness of these type of weapons. Ignoring this problem is not an option.
Mass shootings are a daily occurrence or close to it. I think the death toll needs to be above 20 before it makes national news. Check out this gun violence tracker website: Gun Violence Archive
 
Old 11-08-2017, 07:18 PM
 
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When i think of the second amendment and arms i think it means sufficient arms to defend yourself from the government... of course then one might say so does that mean we get nukes since the government has some!!!!
Yes, it does mean that. Which is just one more excellent argument for banning THOSE weapons entirely.
 
Old 11-08-2017, 07:19 PM
 
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define assault rifle
Definition: A rifle that facilitates killing of humans beings in quantity (?)
 
Old 11-08-2017, 07:21 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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The militia intended by the 2A is individual citizens with privately owned firearms who can assemble and organize under their own auspices, selecting their own chain of command and for purposes to be determined by them.


The federal government has no authority over the militia that the militia does not grant it. And it need not grant any authority. The ability of communities to form militia armed and equipped from private inventories is the intent. Thus communities can defend against a threat when that threat arises. Not when the feds say to and decide to hand out arms and equipment.


That notion is just ludicrous. And the SCOTUS thought so to.
Where does the 2nd Amendment say all this? There is zero evidence that state militias were suppose to be composed of individual citizens with their private weapons. Actually the opposite is true, the articles of confederation specifically calls out states to provide and store weapons for the militia of that state. There is ZERO evidence they intended or wanted private gun inventories.

The Federal government had authority over the Militia when the states had over their rights to a state militia in the 1903 Militia Act.
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