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Old 11-27-2017, 05:31 AM
 
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Absolutely & I do understand that fact...but anything is better than nothing.

Even a "quality" rehab program costs 10's of thousands of dollars a month. With zero guarantees.

You can't put that "type" of "quality" on the taxpayers for public school kids who come from households of parents who don't care.
Why not?

We can invest billions and billions of dollars into other areas, but not our youth. Which makes absolutely no sense to me considering our country would reap the benefits of an increasingly educated population as the youth mature.
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Old 11-27-2017, 05:33 AM
 
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I thought conservatives were all about hard work? Funny how you do everything to cripple working people yet at the same time praise them very interesting.
"Hard work" isn't valuable if it's no/low-skill. Flooding the US with no/low-skill illegal aliens, refugees, and immigrants only exacerbates the problem and keeps low-end wages depressed.
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Old 11-27-2017, 05:36 AM
 
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School choice will even this out - at least in theory. The way it is now, people shop for homes by comparing school districts. With school choice, they will shop for schools irrespective of where they live.

But don't expect your chosen school to come get your kids.
School choice won't eradicate the issues associated with poverty and school funding.
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Old 11-27-2017, 05:39 AM
 
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You know what life is never fair. I hate the conservatives for making PP public enemy number 1.

But again, the world doesn't owe anyone anything. We all have to deal with schitty cards at some point. We deal with it.

I hate seeing people on my side making excuses for poor decisions. Yes, I'm a liberal. I'm just not a regressive liberal.
What say you about progressive liberal countries like Finland and Norway?

They don't say "the world doesn't owe anyone anything." Instead, they recognize an issue, study it and come to a solution that will benefit the individual and country as a whole. Do you disagree with this mode of government? If so, why?
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Old 11-27-2017, 05:41 AM
 
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Many school districts with the worst results have the highest per pupil funding levels. Washington, DC and Camden, NJ, for example. Should we reduce their funding and redistribute it to the better performing suburban school districts?
I am interested in how much of that money is actually spent on the students. I'm going to guess a large amount of that money is spent on administration. If I'm right, and I am sure I am, I will counter you by saying that "throwing" whatever money is overspent on admin to students will absolutely help them.
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Old 11-27-2017, 05:42 AM
 
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"Hard work" isn't valuable if it's no/low-skill. Flooding the US with no/low-skill illegal aliens, refugees, and immigrants only exacerbates the problem and keeps low-end wages depressed.
If its not valuable, why does the position exist in the first place?
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Old 11-27-2017, 06:04 AM
 
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt....lizzard-school

Not too cool for school: Siberian students brave -50C cold & extreme blizzard to attend classes.

Mut huts are way better than this!
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Old 11-27-2017, 06:14 AM
 
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School choice won't eradicate the issues associated with poverty and school funding.
Not necessarily. If we as a nation can buy better education with less tax money, why wouldn't we? Not all private schools are pricey. Homeschooling isn't pricey. Cyberschool isn't pricey, PLUS it eliminates the problem of bullying and violence at school and going to/from school (which is a BIG problem in Chicago, several kids have been killed going to and from school - gang related).
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Old 11-27-2017, 06:17 AM
 
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What say you about progressive liberal countries like Finland and Norway?

They don't say "the world doesn't owe anyone anything." Instead, they recognize an issue, study it and come to a solution that will benefit the individual and country as a whole. Do you disagree with this mode of government? If so, why?
Those countries have very low population. They also are for the most part non-diverse. In other words, it is easier for them to find solution that work for most of their people.

The US is a lot more diverse. What could work for the Hispanic population might not work for the black pop.

We also have conservative nutjobs running the country. Why on earth do you think they will ever listen. Aim for something more realistic.
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Old 11-27-2017, 06:19 AM
 
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I am interested in how much of that money is actually spent on the students. I'm going to guess a large amount of that money is spent on administration. If I'm right, and I am sure I am, I will counter you by saying that "throwing" whatever money is overspent on admin to students will absolutely help them.
I dare say everybody on both sides hate the fact that so much of the money we pump into education goes into administration.
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