Do the Democrats have a Tax Plan? (unemployment rate, Clarence Thomas, generation)

[FatBob96]

Originally Posted by Metsfan53

So basically you post gibberish for the first point and ignore the second because you have no actual retort.

I'm sorry.... if you had an actual first or second point, I certainly didn't see it.

Please do tell how eliminating a deduction across the board amounts to double taxation the same way the estate tax does?

[FatBob96]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

Except that that is a disingenuous strawman, as you know that if the tax reform goes through, that people in high tax states will revolt against their state governments, and demand that their taxes be lowered. That is the real intention, and it can't be done without cutting tons of jobs and privatization

On what planet does lowering taxes cost jobs?

Lowering taxes spurs growth which creates jobs.

Except, it doesn't really create many cushy, overpaid government jobs needed to service extraneous Liberal social programs and policies..

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by 1grin_g0

I've heard nothing but complaints from the left with respect to the GOP tax plan. What ideas are the Democrats bringing to the table? During the Cruz/Sanders debate on CNN a few weeks ago, Bernie mentioned something about how he'd like to see our taxes as high as Denmark's, which are apparently the highest in the civilized world. I never have really even seen Democrats attempt to lower taxes on the middle class.

Obama asked for a corporate tax cut four times, and four times it was rejected by the GOP.

There is a lot to be complained about in this particular plan, since many middle class families and small businesses will be severely hurt by it.

[Metsfan53]

Originally Posted by FatBob96

I'm sorry.... if you had an actual first or second point, I certainly didn't see it.

Please do tell how eliminating a deduction across the board amounts to double taxation the same way the estate tax does?

So you got nothing huh? Are you this clueless normally or simply enjoy being obtuse? It’s pretty self explanatory if you have two neurons rubbing together. And you still haven’t found a retort for my second point. Simply pretending it doesn’t exist is what second graders do. Perhaps that explains why you support the current t Trumpster logic.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by FatBob96

On what planet does lowering taxes cost jobs?

Lowering taxes spurs growth which creates jobs.

Except, it doesn't really create many cushy, overpaid government jobs needed to service extraneous Liberal social programs and policies..

Lowering taxes starves government budgets, government workers depend on those budgets to get paid. Cut government budget, and a lot of government workers lose their jobs. And the jobs those workers did end up getting privatized, which is detrimental to lower income workers, as private business has regressive pricing (everyone has to pay the same dollar amount, hurts the poor, helps the wealthy)

[FatBob96]

Originally Posted by Metsfan53

So you got nothing huh? Are you this clueless normally or simply enjoy being obtuse? It’s pretty self explanatory if you have two neurons rubbing together. And you still haven’t found a retort for my second point. Simply pretending it doesn’t exist is what second graders do. Perhaps that explains why you support the current t Trumpster logic.

Are you going to explain how eliminating a deduction across the board amounts to double taxation the same way estate taxes do...?

Or are you just going to hurl baseless insults and personal attacks and call it a day?

[FatBob96]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

Lowering taxes starves government budgets, government workers depend on those budgets to get paid. Cut government budget, and a lot of government workers lose their jobs. And the jobs those workers did end up getting privatized, which is detrimental to lower income workers, as private business has regressive pricing (everyone has to pay the same dollar amount, hurts the poor, helps the wealthy)

Less government jobs is a byproduct of smaller government.

So, I'm fine with a few less inept pencil pushers at the Social Services office and rude receptionist telling me which line to get in at the DMV.

Private sector growth can easily make up the difference.

Although these government door stops might have to think about some career retraining because they'll have to actually do something in real world.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by FatBob96

Less government jobs is a byproduct of smaller government.

So, I'm fine with a few less inept pencil pushers at the Social Services office and rude receptionist telling me which line to get in at the DMV.

Private sector growth can easily make up the difference.

Although these government door stops might have to think about some career retraining because they'll have to actually do something in real world.

You've never actually known a government worker have you? I have. The ones I've known do not just sit behind a desk and collect a paycheck. They work, just like you and I in the private sector!

[tripleh]

Democrats tax plan was pushing thru Obamacare

[Metsfan53]

Originally Posted by FatBob96

Are you going to explain how eliminating a deduction across the board amounts to double taxation the same way estate taxes do...?

Or are you just going to hurl baseless insults and personal attacks and call it a day?

It’s literally a double taxation the exact same reason people like you cry left and right why we need to eliminate the estate tax. But somehow when it punishes libs you suddenly are all for it even if it goes against every principle you supposedly hold? And you keep asking your own silly questions without addressing my points. Simply pretending it doesn’t exist isn’t a valid retort. So please attempt to prove me wrong before you expect me to continue to do the same.