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Old 12-03-2017, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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The 'press' today is NOT the 'press' of the past, and imo, should not have the same rights. todays 'press' is nothing but a tool used to promote and discredit various agenda., they also work hand in hand with Govt to condition and brainwash as many people as they can.

The change happened when the 'press' was all owned by 6 private corporations, in other words, they literally control what is news and what is not.
Jeez, the forum is becoming the theatre of the absurd.

I just responded to a thread, on page one, started by a rabid Trumpster claiming that the libs are hell bent on taking away the first amendment rights while here's another rabid Trumpster proclaiming that the press shouldn't have the same rights of free speech as they used to have.

What the hell is going on with you people??????????
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Old 12-03-2017, 11:21 AM
 
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Trump is a loud-mouthed stooge. If we can sue people for lowering the market, can we sue him when his disastrous policies topple the economy?
People?

We are talking about ABC News which published a fake made up story about the sitting US President, over the exclusive use public airwaves that it is licensed to use. And that made up story had a huge impact on the US Stock Market. IMO, they have exposed themselves to legal liability for what they did.

Now if ABC wants to turn itself into a tabloid blog, then I'm fine with that. But first they must give up their broadcast licenses and ownership or affiliation of TV stations across the United States.
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Old 12-03-2017, 11:37 AM
 
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Jeez, the forum is becoming the theatre of the absurd.

I just responded to a thread, on page one, started by a rabid Trumpster claiming that the libs are hell bent on taking away the first amendment rights while here's another rabid Trumpster proclaiming that the press shouldn't have the same rights of free speech as they used to have.

What the hell is going on with you people??????????
With all due respect to George Orwell, his 1984 came 33 years later than he anticipated.

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Old 12-03-2017, 11:40 AM
 
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What the hell is going on with you people??????????
Have you been paying any attentionto the nonsense the MSM has been peddling the last year? When the MSM so obviously wades into politics in support of one party, there's going to be blowback. It's silly not to expect otherwise. Just look how crazy libs get when Fox News disses one of their darlings.
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Old 12-03-2017, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Good luck with that. Suing because they lost money?

Hey that's great! Every time the stock market falls, someone can be blamed and sued. More work for attorneys!
And yet, the head of Enron was put in prison for much the same thing.

However, it's not like the media is ever held accountable for lying or destroying the lives or businesses of innocent people.
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Old 12-03-2017, 11:56 AM
 
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If the news report caused a downturn, then it will rebound. It is more believable that Flynn's gulity plea and his toes to Trump are what caused the downturn or most of it.
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Old 12-03-2017, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Hey the stock market collapsed during the Bush administration. Maybe everyone who lost money then needs to sue George Bush. What a stupid thread. No one news story is going to cause the stock market to drop that much. The stock market goes up and down daily. Some times you lose, sometimes you win. What a stupid thread.
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Old 12-03-2017, 11:57 AM
 
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[quote=Rambler123;50295182]Because the market hates uncertainty. Trump is worthless. He hasn't done a single thing of any value for any working class Americans in this nation, save for the ones who get their kicks out of spewing bigotry and who no doubt enjoy his half-arse travel ban and his obvious support of white supremacists in places like Charlottesville.

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The economy is still riding on the coat-tails of the Obama recovery - although, to be honest, even Obama didn't work any miracles there. The only reason it dips when Trump is in trouble or proposes some mind-boggling stupid idea is because the market hates uncertainty, not because the market needs Trump to succeed somehow.
I agree, the market hates uncertainty. So when there is certainty and its reported that they have the votes to pass the tax bill and/or the bill passes. There will be certainty and if the market goes up, and IMO it will spike up, its Trumps economy. There will be certainty if it fails to pass also and the market will sell off, IMO, but who's economy will it be then? Still Obama's or Trump's.


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If Trump literally did nothing the rest of his time in office - and found a way to avoid being impeached or otherwise legally dealt with for obstruction of justice, etc. - the market would have a much better day simple because uncertainty over that lunatic's actions and if he will still be the president or not will be removed.

Don't confuse fear of the unknown with fear of a specific person failing. Trump is worthless, and the only reason the market HAS continued to do so well is because Trump has failed to implement most of his idiotic ideas thus far, with the unfortunate "low introductory rates" pay-day loan style tax scam being the near-term exception.
In bold here you give the reason and credit for the market doing well to Trump by virtue of his not getting his agenda enacted. Yet in paragraph 2 of your post you credit the economy to Obama. You say it "is still riding on the coat-tails of the Obama recovery".

If you are right on both counts then it is the economy of both Obama and Trump combined at present. The tax bill will effect the economy for good or bad then it moves more to the Trump economy and at some point he owns it. I'm sure what that point is will be argued by all sides.
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Old 12-03-2017, 12:12 PM
 
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Painting with an awfully broad brush this morning, aren't we?

This is one guy being a crappy reporter. He should be fired.

Remember when millions on your side voted to destroy the nation, in no small part because it would annoy liberals?
So you're going to tell me that you didn't take pleasure in the report next right?

Democrats want to get Trump so bad they are willing to put your investments at risk and cause your wealth to nosedive to get him. Democrats don't care about the middle class, they care about getting Trump.
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Old 12-03-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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WoW,

The producer of this Fake News is married to that liar Susan Rice.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...port_is_susan/
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