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Old 12-05-2017, 06:42 PM
 
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No ruling yet. Don't go counting chickens before they hatch.


"Can a man excuse his practices to the contrary because of his religious belief? To permit this would be to make the professed doctrines of religious belief superior to the law of the land, and in effect to permit every citizen to become a law unto himself"

A. Scalia.
It should have nothing to do with religion and everything to do with freedom.
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Old 12-05-2017, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Oh, I see, you think if it’s law, it’s right. What a good obedient citizen you are.
No, I think that laws are to be obeyed until they can be changed. There are legal means of getting laws changed.
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Old 12-05-2017, 07:16 PM
 
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Just sad that so much effort and legal expanse went to a case that is essentially being nitpicky. The gay couple could have easily got a cake elsewhere.


If you knew much about major legal cases, you'd know that they often result from a small individual impasse.
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Old 12-05-2017, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Baking a cake is not part of a wedding ceremony.
The cake is.
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Old 12-05-2017, 07:17 PM
 
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No, I think that laws are to be obeyed until they can be changed. There are legal means of getting laws changed.


Would you have said that in Nazi Germany?

I think sometimes the laws may need to be broken to bring it to the attention of the public (and the media).
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Old 12-05-2017, 07:18 PM
 
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I don't understand how religious people who claim to have so much "faith" in their all powerful God yet feel the need to constantly speak for this entity, what he wants, what he thinks, what he desires. If they are so convinced that he is the most powerful being to have ever existed, why are they so insecure about God? I believe "religious freedom" is a poorly disguised way of saying "freedom to be an a-hole while taking no blame for my actions."
No, I think you have us confused with the "My baby is part of my body, despite being a separate human being, and it's my body and my choice, so *********!" crowd.
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Old 12-05-2017, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Houston
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No, I think that laws are to be obeyed until they can be changed. There are legal means of getting laws changed.
Harriet Tubman disagreed with you.
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Old 12-05-2017, 07:22 PM
 
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No, I think that laws are to be obeyed until they can be changed. There are legal means of getting laws changed.
LOL! Obummer and the Lefties in California blatantly ignored DOMA and Prop 8 despite them being law and eventually it was taken to courts where their robed tyrant pals struck down the laws they didn't like.

Also, the Left sure doesn't take that policy with "sanctuary cities".

It's time we stopped following the Left's iron-fisted laws and flip the bird to them and their "do as I say, not as I do" rule over us!

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Old 12-05-2017, 07:23 PM
 
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Actually, I think Dr. King would be on OUR side. Even if the Supreme Court ruled in the Gaystapo's favor, he'd say about the Colorado law "An unjust law is no law at all!"
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Old 12-05-2017, 07:24 PM
 
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I don't understand how religious people who claim to have so much "faith" in their all powerful God yet feel the need to constantly speak for this entity, what he wants, what he thinks, what he desires. If they are so convinced that he is the most powerful being to have ever existed, why are they so insecure about God? I believe "religious freedom" is a poorly disguised way of saying "freedom to be an a-hole while taking no blame for my actions."
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature

HTH.
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