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Get our old guys to resign, the seats are relatively safe in an emergency election or a Governor's decision on a replacement and now the Democrats can claim moral supremacy over the Republicans trying to save an Alabama seat in that special election or the President staying tough and refusing to resign himself.
LOL! Do you really think this?
The Democrats are going to bury Al Franken's existence and pretend that he never existed. He only resigned because they proved it. The last thing they will want to do is to talk about him in the future.
Hmm. Maybe the Republicans would have gained an advantage in capturing the Senate seat in November 2018 if Mr. Franken had stayed in office. Perhaps that is why the Democrats were so intent on Mr. Franken departing.
No, the seat will be up in 2018, otherwise, Franken's term would have lasted until 2020.
2018 is already a tough map for Dems and this means another seat to defend. Word is that Tina Smith would be a placeholder appointment who would not run in 2018 as incumbent.
So there is in fact some political fall out for the Democratic party in all of this.
Shocking, I know, to think that Democrats would actually do something like pressure Franken to resign because they believe it to be the morally right thing to do rather than the politically expedient one.
It's actually good for the democrats long term. They can spin it to show that they don't protect their own like the republicans do.
That might be true if he wasn't going to be replaced by another democrat. At the very least, they are protecting their own seats, and the GOP should do the same.
If not for the childish photo op, the outcome might have been different given allegations made about other politicians, including the sitting POTUS. None of the allegations occured while he was in the Senate.
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I wonder if the standard going forward for politicians accused of sexual abuse is sexual abuse accusations don't count if none of the sexual abuse happened while he was an elected politician. franken denied any sexual abuse after he was elected to the senate.
franken also denied in his speech today that he did these things at all..... saying he remembered the things he was accused of "differently" than his accusers and also denied some of them ever happened at all.
franken only resigned because his dem colleagues piled on, after 7 accusers and not one day before when there were 6 accusers, and used him as a political pawn to take the high ground. Him resigning cost the dems nothing. He will be replaced by another progressive. he wouldn't have been forced to resign by his colleagues if a republican would be appointed instead.
after listening to his speech, franken doesn't think he did anything wrong. what a creep.
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In the court of mob rule public opinion the Democrats have just seized the high ground in New Salem.
Nope. A disgraced Senator resigned for groping women in an illegal and unacceptable manner. There is photo evidence that can't be disputed.
It's nothing more than that.
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