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Old 12-21-2017, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:44 PM
 
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How exactly is a tax system that forces one person to pay $2 million and another to pay $10k for the same services fair to the one paying 20 times more for nothing extra?

Just because you feel entitled to other people’s money doesn’t mean it’s fair that you demand they pay 20 times more than you.

You’re demanding trickle down taxes so you get other people’s money.
I said trickle down economy does not work for the middle class. And I feel entitled to nothing. We are a union family which I know republicans hate. But we get healthcare for life. Our retirement and other benefits such as our 401 are outstanding. If more middle class would join unions they would be so much better off.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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We give a lot to charity and I volunteer. My point is, give the tax break to the ones who really need it, not the ones who don't. Does this make sense to you. It would have been great if republicans sincerely cared about the poor and middle class.
Well then-if you don't need the tax cut-just give a lot more to charity. Problem solved. People that feel they need to keep some more of their earnings are free to do so as well. No reason to stress that way.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:49 PM
 
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I said trickle down economy does not work for the middle class. And I feel entitled to nothing. We are a union family which I know republicans hate. But we get healthcare for life. Our retirement and other benefits such as our 401 are outstanding. If more middle class would join unions they would be so much better off.
Oh, I see. You are one of those people that couldn’t get a raise on your own merits and need to latch on to the work of others.

I wouldn’t want to be limited to an average wage that every worker gets. I have always enjoyed receiving more based on my performance being better than most other people.

You’ve been raised with the “I need a nanny” mindset.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:51 PM
 
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Well then-if you don't need the tax cut-just give a lot more to charity. Problem solved. People that feel they need to keep some more of their earnings are free to do so as well. No reason to stress that way.
You just don't get it. We are not rich. But this bill greatly benefits the rich by hundreds of thousands if not millions more. Why do they need more money. This doesn't help the working poor or middle class who are the one's struggling.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:53 PM
 
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Oh, I see. You are one of those people that couldn’t get a raise on your own merits and need to latch on to the work of others.

I wouldn’t want to be limited to an average wage that every worker gets. I have always enjoyed receiving more based on my performance being better than most other people.

You’ve been raised with the “I need a nanny” mindset.
LOL what in the world are you talking about. It certainly has nothing to do with my post.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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You just don't get it. We are not rich. But this bill greatly benefits the rich by hundreds of thousands if not millions more. Why do they need more money. This doesn't help the working poor or middle class who are the one's struggling.
Why do you think YOU should decide if "the rich" need the money they earned or not? What gives you that right? As I said-if you don't "need" to keep more of your earnings, feel free to give more to those charities that help those that are struggling. Pretty arrogant though to think you should decide what should be done with the money other people earn.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:55 PM
 
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You just don't get it. We are not rich. But this bill greatly benefits the rich by hundreds of thousands if not millions more. Why do they need more money. This doesn't help the working poor or middle class who are the one's struggling.
If you were paying $&k in Federal income taxes and continue paying $8k, and a person paying $1.4 million is now paying $1.2 million, how exactly is it hurting you?
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:57 PM
 
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Why do you think YOU should decide if "the rich" need the money they earned or not? What gives you that right? As I said-if you don't "need" to keep more of your earnings, feel free to give more to those charities that help those that are struggling. Pretty arrogant though to think you should decide what should be done with the money other people earn.


Well isn't that what republicans have done. They decided where our money should go not us.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Well isn't that what republicans have done. They decided where our money should go not us.
How so? The Republicans are the ones allowing your family to decide where an additional $6,000 of your money goes (per your claims). Dems are the ones that refuse to give you that choice.
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