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Old 12-21-2017, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Logical fallacy.

Clearly the EU Ministers didn't want it to happen. Hence they wrote the letter directly to members of the US Congress.

This speaks for itself.
LOL, you don't even know what a logical fallacy is.
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Old 12-21-2017, 12:43 PM
 
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Ah hominem fallacy.

Here's another fact.

Trump still winning. Keeps major campaign promise. People like you say he doesn't accomplish anything. Wrong again.


just b/c it's ad hominem doesn't mean its not true...please continue posting Infowars related posts numerous times a day.


OR you could also continue lauding a man who has gone from populist to straight cooperate conservative in the blink of an eye who's biggest contribution to tax reform was staying away. And unless you have an estate worth 13MM, are a tax lawyer, or a huge multinational corp you are literally cheering for a bill that would help you very little or more likely hurt you in the long run...
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Old 12-21-2017, 12:45 PM
 
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Some of value sovereignty over world organizations telling how to do things.


yes, yes we get it, MAGA, America first and other empty slogans that accomplish nothing and harken back to a bygone era never coming back. When you're ready to join the real world let us know, perhaps by then you'll need to speak Mandarin though.
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Old 12-21-2017, 12:45 PM
 
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EU governments are very unhappy that Trump and GOP have cut taxes.

They say it's unfair to the European worker because jobs will now go to Americans.

https://www.infowars.com/eu-fears-un...ve-to-america/

Thankfully we got rid of Obama/Hillary.

Trump still winning!
Even the Microsoft CEO has now stated Globalism is dead and replaced by National Populism. Never forget your own people, as in Americans, just like Obama did & risk a nationwide repudiation by increasingly frustrated voters.

In effect, Obama elected Trump.


This is now becoming Obama's worst Christmas ever. Could be losing his nobel peace prize and that will happen in time & now the economy is rocking under Pres. Trump.
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Old 12-21-2017, 12:46 PM
 
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just b/c it's ad hominem doesn't mean its not true...please continue posting Infowars related posts numerous times a day.\
Wrong, yet again.

The article was written by Deutsche Welle. InfoWars correctly cited it.

US tax reform breaks global rules, EU says | Business | DW | 19.12.2017


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Old 12-21-2017, 12:53 PM
 
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Even the Microsoft CEO has now stated Globalism is dead and replaced by National Populism. Never forget your own people, as in Americans, just like Obama did & risk a nationwide repudiation by increasingly frustrated voters.

In effect, Obama elected Trump.


This is now becoming Obama's worst Christmas ever. Could be losing his nobel peace prize and that will happen in time & now the economy is rocking under Pres. Trump.


so basically you read a Briertbart headline and didn't bother to actually read the article it sourced from, where Nadella discussed the actual issue and highlighted the issue in respect to confronting inequality, you know the very thing that would be increased under this new law. Typical of a Trumpster....
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Old 12-21-2017, 12:53 PM
 
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yes, yes we get it, MAGA, America first and other empty slogans that accomplish nothing and harken back to a bygone era never coming back. When you're ready to join the real world let us know, perhaps by then you'll need to speak Mandarin though.
I am a libertarian not a trumper. I am looking at the future not the past. Ireland dropped Corporate taxes to 12.5% and they are booming. They got $300 billion in foreign investment in 2015 alone and GDP rose 26% all with EU threats.

Great Britain is doing fine without the EU again dispute all the dire warnings.

You can't live in paranoid fear of world organizations. They need us they are not going to do anything.

The EU does not like it because it benefits us not them. And corporations will flock here as well as investment.
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Old 12-21-2017, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Deflection.

The OP and the other Trumpets here are claiming the tax bill will result in European jobs being shifted to the US. Given other items in the tax bill that is not a sure thing, and it's even possible the opposite could happen.

The EU officials objected to the excise tax and other provisions which could disrupt trade, not any claims about job gains or losses on either side of the Atlantic. Even from a US standpoint they could be correct, as a disruption in trade would hurt the US as well as the EU.
Jobs moved from Europe will be more costly in the US when you factor in the health insurance benefits companies must fork out here. The pay scale is somewhat lower in Europe because health insurance is not paid by the companies. If employees cost more, the tax issue could be a wash.

But, Americans are going to see the cost of products and the cost of living rise, so those lauded tax cuts will end up being used for that.

And it is very odd, but over in the Europe forum, this is not even a topic or concern, so maybe it's just being played up in P&C.
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Old 12-21-2017, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Wrong, yet again.

The article was written by Deutsche Welle. InfoWars correctly cited it.

US tax reform breaks global rules, EU says | Business | DW | 19.12.2017


And that article does not say the EU ministers were upset that the US cut taxes, per se, as you claimed, they were upset (and rightfully so) about certain provisions in the new tax code. Explicitly the very article you're citing says:

"The United States is Europe's single most important trade and investment partner," the finance ministers wrote. "It is important that the U.S. government's rights over domestic tax policy be exercised in a way that adheres with international obligations to which it has signed-up. The inclusion of certain less conventional international tax provisions could contravene the US's double taxation treaties and may risk having a major distortive impact on international trade."

Is that being upset at mere cutting of taxes? No. Did they say anything about undercutting European jobs which would be gained in the US? No. They're upset at the new taxes because it violates certain international agreements. Your Infowars article is spinning all sorts of things that aren't in the original article.
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Old 12-21-2017, 12:58 PM
 
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Wrong, yet again.

The article was written by Deutsche Welle. InfoWars correctly cited it.

US tax reform breaks global rules, EU says | Business | DW | 19.12.2017


1) so you're now denying you start numerous Inforwars related posts daily?


2) You linked to Infowars, regardless of what article was referenced within, your link was to INfowars, thus my point is correct. I could tell b/c right next to this article was one about UN putting troops on streets of Chicago.
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