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The Midwestern migration to FL is not new--they've been coming down I-75 since the 80s and settling in SW and Central FL. The retirees from NY, NJ and MA have been coming down to SE and central FL in equal amounts. In addition, many Puerto Ricans have emigrated to FL. It is still purple and will never be red.
I didn't say it was new. I said that it doesn't fit the narrative that migrants to the South are not Republican leaning groups because most migrants to Florida are Republican on balance. This was how Trump was able to defeat Clinton by more than 100,000 votes despite a rapidly growing Latino population.
Someone just has to keep reminding them why they left and to not turn the new state into the crapfest they left. Illinois is shedding people big time. It's dated December 21, 2017 so it's current.
Really? You're living in Appalachia and you have the nerve to talk about someone living in a crapfest?
Yeah -- weather is the number one motivating factor.
No it's not. It's taxes and competent governance. People are also flooding into New Hampshire and Washington. Hawaii and Puerto Rico are bleeding people like crazy into the mainland. California is losing the domestic migration battle.
No it's not. It's taxes and competent governance. People are also flooding into New Hampshire and Washington. Hawaii and Puerto Rico are also bleeding people like crazy into the mainland.
Competent governance like Kansas where the Treasury was bled dry, competent governance like Texas where they're facing a massive budget crisis, or competent governance like North Carolina whose Governor and state legislature lost the state millions of dollars in revenues due to a stupid bathroom law?
I think the move to Washingotn is more about jobs than 'taxes & competent governance'. I can't say anything about New Hampshire - -I know absolutely nothing about New Hampshire. I can't imagine anyone would move there for anything. I'm sure it is lovely -- as is Vermont, Maine, etc....but YIKES -- winter -- blech.
Really? You're living in Appalachia and you have the nerve to talk about someone living in a crapfest?
I have a beautiful relatively cheap 2 bedroom, 2 bath modern suburban apartment. I've been here 10.7 years and I'm still not paying the rent I paid in Maryland in for a smaller apartment there. I'm originally from NY (Bronx and Long Island) and lived in Maryland for 12 years. I pay no state income tax. My electric bill was $56.00 last month. There's a lake in my town and I can see the mountains. The Great Smoky Mountains National Park isn't far away. None of the roads or highways near me are toll roads. My town has a national lab, a national security complex, a hospital, a science museum, several parks and an arboretum just to name a few things and the population is just under 30,000 sitting on 85 square miles of land. You've been watching too much TV and movies.
No it's not. It's taxes and competent governance. People are also flooding into New Hampshire and Washington. Hawaii and Puerto Rico are bleeding people like crazy into the mainland. California is losing the domestic migration battle.
Hawaii is an outlier due to high cost of living; everything must be flown or shipped in and that means prices are higher.
Florida bypassed NY some years ago, but it has very little to do with politics, and more to do with climate and immigration.
Exactly!
Boomers and their parents are getting older and retiring. Florida offers not just a non-tax on pension state, but more to the point climate suits oldsters better than say New York, New Jersey and other Northeastern states.
I have a beautiful relatively cheap 2 bedroom, 2 bath modern suburban apartment. I've been here 10.7 years and I'm still not paying the rent I paid in Maryland in for a smaller apartment there. I'm originally from NY (Bronx and Long Island) and lived in Maryland for 12 years. I pay no state income tax. My electric bill was $56.00 last month. There's a lake in my town and I can see the mountains. The Great Smoky Mountains National Park isn't far away. None of the roads or highways near me are toll roads. My town has a national lab, a national security complex, a hospital, a science museum, several parks and an arboretum just to name a few things and the population is just under 30,000 sitting on 85 square miles of land. You've been watching too much TV and movies.
People that live in the metro echo chambers their entire life, do not understand that if you live on a farm or out in the sticks, you never get bored. There is always something to do and places to be. They would be lost without their Starbucks, McDonalds and their cell phones.
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