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Old 01-15-2018, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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I found this quite interesting--California is leading the charge to kick fossil fuel power generation:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...gas-in-america

"California, the state that helped birth the global boom in battery-toting electric vehicles, is trying to spark a similar transformation for utilities. And that spells trouble for power plants all across the U.S. that run on natural gas.
The California Public Utilities Commission approved an order Thursday that will require PG&E Corp., the state’s biggest utility, to change the way it supplies power when demand peaks. Instead of relying on electricity from three gas-fired plants run by Calpine Corp., PG&E will have to use batteries or other non-fossil fuel resources to keep the lights on in the most-populated U.S. state."
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:59 AM
 
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They think they need more population and count on the blackouts to produce the results.

Brilliant !!! They are genius !!! Its one way to get voters. Keep them breeding.

We need more tents. It replaces the rabbit cages.
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:02 AM
 
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don't batteries have a negative effect on the environment?
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Houston
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California is nuts. No states will follow.
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:05 AM
 
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I’m all for high tech but highly doubt natural gas is going anywhere. Storing high voltage would be fantastic but is very expensive right now.
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:07 AM
 
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California is nuts. No states will follow.
That should keep the squirrels in power. Less certain about powering the lights.
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:07 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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don't batteries have a negative effect on the environment?
This. Batteries have very toxic chemicals that can contaminate the land and water.
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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All the shreikers discounting electric power.., lol

You keep listening to your boy Trump tout the benefits of coal and I’ll keep investing in electric and solar. You dinosaurs should rely on coal, it lines up perfectly with your beliefs.

Meanwhile, I’ll be watching my portfolio.
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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I found this quite interesting--California is leading the charge to kick fossil fuel power generation:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...gas-in-america

"California, the state that helped birth the global boom in battery-toting electric vehicles, is trying to spark a similar transformation for utilities. And that spells trouble for power plants all across the U.S. that run on natural gas.
The California Public Utilities Commission approved an order Thursday that will require PG&E Corp., the state’s biggest utility, to change the way it supplies power when demand peaks. Instead of relying on electricity from three gas-fired plants run by Calpine Corp., PG&E will have to use batteries or other non-fossil fuel resources to keep the lights on in the most-populated U.S. state."
Sheesh..I was going to offer a lengthy technical tome on a few of the reasons I don't think this will work very well..... But the load was to great on my battery system and I tripped off the line......................
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:19 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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All the shreikers discounting electric power.., lol

You keep listening to your boy Trump tout the benefits of coal and I’ll keep investing in electric and solar. You dinosaurs should rely on coal, it lines up perfectly with your beliefs.

Meanwhile, I’ll be watching my portfolio.
You are an example why the Left is so ignorant. Trump is not touting the benefits of coal or dismissing other alternatives. He is just saying that there is still a need for traditional energies like coal, oil, etc. and that until we have a more reliable energy source, they will still be needed.

He is practical and is not blinded by Leftwing ideology and he is right.
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