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Old 01-16-2018, 09:40 AM
 
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California is great for the subsidized poor and the top 10% or so. The vast middle ground in between is basically squeezed out.
You hit the nail on the head. Once the middle class moved out in huge numbers they were replaced by poor illegals. So now you have the wealthy elite and their poorly paid servants making up a large percentage of the population.
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Old 01-16-2018, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Yet another thread running down California.
So, posting facts is "running down California?"
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Old 01-16-2018, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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I'm sure the people of California really give a damn too.
I suspect the poor in CA do give a damn. The rich, not so much.
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Old 01-16-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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Yet another thread running down California.

Did you bother to read any of the linked articles? Any mention of how the cost-of-living figured into this?

Next we will be treated to posts about that RW paradise, North Dakota.


Place the blame wherever you want..CA still comes out now as "leading the nation" in poverty.
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Syracuse, New York
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The supplemental poverty rate is taken from a rolling three year average. California's rate will improve when next year's survey replaces 2014 with 2017.
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:48 AM
 
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It is indeed location, supply and demand.

I would bet good money that a survey of the homeless and the poor would reveal quite a few who moved to California from other places.

Those who have been there all along, would likely have purchased their homes when costs were more affordable.

Should California to be blamed because prices have gone up and the newcomers can't afford to live there?

Those who are unhappy with the situation in coastal California, could always move to the interior where costs are lower. Or move back to where they came from.

Yes, California is to blame because California voters are more anti-growth and anti-development than voters in any other state. This largely benefits the majority who are incumbent homeowners, as their housing costs are stabilized and largely fixed, while the rising costs are borne by newcomers and those unable to buy.
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:55 AM
 
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California is great for the subsidized poor and the top 10% or so. The vast middle ground in between is basically squeezed out.
I love these out-of-state posts from people who don't live here and have no clue what they are talking about.

I'm middle class and I'm surrounded by many square miles of middle class suburbs. Ain't nobody being squeezed out here. In fact, the real estate market is very tight (a shortage of listings) because no one wants to sell.
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:55 AM
 
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Y'all gotta at least pick something in a metro area, not a farm town 30 miles from even a small city. I randomly picked a suburb of KC Kansas and got 260K for a nice-ish if a bit dated 4BR colonial. Certainly LOTS less than CA but the previous examples are not indicative of realistic. Yes the 80K a year family lives FAR better in KS than CA.

What the heck is driving up CA prices to crazy multiples of local income?

Maybe foreign buyers and investors?

The growing number of wealthy Chinese are looking for convenient offshore places to park their cash, largely real estate esp California which for them is conveniently located.
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:57 AM
 
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Highest gas taxes which are supposed to fix the roads but California has the worst roads in America. Money siphoned off for politicians' and unions' pockets.
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:57 AM
 
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Sounds like capitalism to me. Supply and demand issues. As well as location, location, location.

Homelessness is also a problem because of many factors. Most not listed in this thread.


I am guessing that living in Cal. is nicer then in the other states listed.

Shouldn't capitalism be able to solve homelessness?
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