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Old 01-27-2018, 05:24 PM
 
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Obama promised to do just that and then broke that promise first thing. Hardly anyone said a word. We can not change things unless people are willing hold politicians accountable.
Part of the problem is the brainwashing involved by the corporate media.
They know the people are fed up, so they rewrite the script with Trump, a billionaire that admittedly purchased politicians to further his interests, and is going to work for the American People lol.

And we have people lapping up the drivel lol.

Trump loads his admin with Goldman Sachs Members like Obama and he is working for the average American lol

Get me the barf bag
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Old 01-27-2018, 05:26 PM
 
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Anyone CAN incorporate...want that influence money? No problem, create a product or service that serves the consumer better and wait 5-30 years to be a big corporation...


...You gotta start somewhere. Apple, Microsoft, Amazon and others all started with an idea.

As for the title: "Grant everyone the same power as Corporations"

No one "GRANTED" that power to the corporations....they went out there and EARNED it.
Sure, I want to drive the monopolies into the ground that own our government.
Lets start with the Big ISPs.

Google tried it and failed.
Sure, keep dreaming pal!

Do you have a few billion dollars for the average American to compete with the Big Monopolies that own this country?

They went out and earned the right to corruption - OK
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Old 01-27-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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Part of the problem is the brainwashing involved by the corporate media.
They know the people are fed up, so they rewrite the script with Trump, a billionaire that admittedly purchased politicians to further his interests, and is going to work for the American People lol.

And we have people lapping up the drivel lol.

Trump loads his admin with Goldman Sachs Members like Obama and he is working for the average American lol

Get me the barf bag
Trump, Trump, Trump. Trump is doing what he was elected to do. Unless those who want an alternative, demand it and accept nothing less there never will be one.
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Old 01-27-2018, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Citizen has one vote. Corporation has none.
And if you think voting means anything, anything at all, you deserve the crony capitalist system funded by the Banking Families you live under.
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Old 01-27-2018, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I don't because I know who they serve.
The last 6 presidents including Trump are Corporate and Banking Lackeys.

I see no different between Obama and Trump where they both serve the Corporate and Banking Elite rather than this country.
I have a significant amount of money invested in 401Ks and IRAs. That makes me a stockholder-those boards and CEOs work for ME. If the higher-paid, highly skilled, in demand CEOs can deliver a better return on my investment than someone with an IQ of 75 working for minimum wage-so be it. Don't like it? Don't buy stock in that company? Or DO, and then use your power as a shareholder to change their practices.
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Old 01-27-2018, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Sure, I want to drive the monopolies into the ground that own our government.
Lets start with the Big ISPs.

Google tried it and failed.
Sure, keep dreaming pal!

Do you have a few billion dollars for the average American to compete with the Big Monopolies that own this country?

They went out and earned the right to corruption - OK
The corporations are only partners with the governments of the world.

It's the monetary system that needs abolished. Freedom of movement, association, non-monopolized currencies backed by force will end the slavery system set down by your overlords.
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Old 01-27-2018, 05:32 PM
 
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And if you think voting means anything, anything at all, you deserve the crony capitalist system funded by the Banking Families you live under.
Oh I have missed you. LOL.
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Old 01-27-2018, 05:34 PM
 
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And if you think voting means anything, anything at all, you deserve the crony capitalist system funded by the Banking Families you live under.
I certainly believe this would be a different world if President Obama would have been the person Candidate Obama said he was going to be and there is no reason other than no one held him accountable that he wasn't.

I certainly believe it would be a different country today if Sanders had won.

If the corporate wing of the (D) party picks the candidate again, it will make no difference who wins.
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Old 01-27-2018, 05:34 PM
 
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I have a significant amount of money invested in 401Ks and IRAs. That makes me a stockholder-those boards and CEOs work for ME. If the higher-paid, highly skilled, in demand CEOs can deliver a better return on my investment than someone with an IQ of 75 working for minimum wage-so be it. Don't like it? Don't buy stock in that company? Or DO, and then use your power as a shareholder to change their practices.
How about some personal responsibility and not relying on the government to prop up wall street and not relying on corporations to prop it up either?
How about savings instead like American Families used to do?

You do know, most small business started with savings and were not beholden to the bankers and criminals in finance?
Look around you.
They have elevated and inflated the costs of everything, from housing to medical in order to make bank.
They have outsourced jobs in order to make bank and in the process have destroyed this country.

There are more people homeless today than ever because of this.

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Old 01-27-2018, 05:38 PM
 
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I certainly believe this would be a different world if President Obama would have been the person Candidate Obama said he was going to be and there is no reason other than no one held him accountable that he wasn't.

I certainly believe it would be a different country today if Sanders had won.

If the corporate wing of the (D) party picks the candidate again, it will make no difference who wins.
Agreed
Nothing is going to change if we elect another corporate and banking elite.
It will be the same BS as we have had in the last 5 presidents.
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