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Old 01-30-2018, 05:02 PM
 
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I'm not surprised, motorcycle sales peaked in 2006.
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Florida
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You're literally arguing semantics here against yourself. My point was that his admin has sold this corp tax cut as a way to grow worker salary and corporate expansion when in fact companies grow via demand. German to this topic in that Harley has less demand, despite tax cuts.
The guy in the WH also used Harley as the perfect example of an American company.

Oops--Trump made the wrong call again.

"Trump praised the company last year as a “great example” of a business creating jobs and building factories in the country...."
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Are you kidding? LOL!
No not kidding, you are in Gastonia and as old as I am. The people showing up at Harley events at the dealerships by both of us are not the loud burn rubber types.

They treat their bikes with kid gloves.
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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The guy in the WH also used Harley as the perfect example of an American company.

Oops--Trump made the wrong call again.

"Trump praised the company last year as a “great example” of a business creating jobs and building factories in the country...."
Only Trump says he is smart.
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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The Harley crowd is dying off, literally.


It depends where one lives here in the Southeast they are every where. I will admit that the market is flooded with bikes similar to Harley but in NO way are they a Harley.
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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You're literally arguing semantics here against yourself. My point was that his admin has sold this corp tax cut as a way to grow worker salary and corporate expansion when in fact companies grow via demand. German to this topic in that Harley has less demand, despite tax cuts.
Has it never occurred to you that both things can be true?

Sometimes both at the same time, sometimes one more than the other.

But the two aren't mutually exclusive.
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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so basically without demand a tax cut for a corporation doesn't achieve much then, that's what you're saying?
How do you know that the tax cut didn't help keep Harley from shutting down two factories ...or more ?

How do you know that it didn't give Harley more capital to be able to redesign bikes to attract younger buyers ?

Or invest in new equipment to help productivity?

Or to keep on and help relocate some of the workers in the plant that shut down?


Here......I'll answer for you:


You don't.
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Never been a big fan of Harleys. I've owned a couple over the years, but they were deals I couldn't pass up. I preferred my Nortons, but you can hardly find one anymore. Had an Indian basket case and a Triumph as well, and I liked both of those better than Harleys.

For comfort, my favorite was an 87 Goldwing. Unlike a Harley or a Norton, you could actually feel your legs after a 6 hour ride on the Goldwing.
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:40 PM
 
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How do you know that the tax cut didn't help keep Harley from shutting down two factories ...or more ?

How do you know that it didn't give Harley more capital to be able to redesign bikes to attract younger buyers ?

Or invest in new equipment to help productivity?

Or to keep on and help relocate some of the workers in the plant that shut down?


Here......I'll answer for you:


You don't.
so now you've devolved into fantasy land arguments to try to keep your argument afloat?
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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They're the Model T of motorcycles. Times are a changing.

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