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How about Carter Page admitting that he was working with the Russians. And how about the dossier was not the only documentation put forth to the judge for consideration in issuing the warrant. That's how.
I know it was not the only documentation. What they used before didn't work alone. They needed the Dossier. And they got what they needed even if it had to be made up.
NSA's Admiral Mike Rodgers blew the whistle what was going on.
I know it was not the only documentation. What they used before didn't work alone. They needed the Dossier. And they got what they needed even if it had to be made up.
No they didn't. And no it isn't. Some of it has been corroborated. The investigation was started before the dossier was even an issue. Carter Page was on the radar before the dossier was even an issue.
]They tried 2 times prior and were denied. Yes, a FISA Court Judge denied them twice prior, to the Dossier's appearance and then with it a FISA Warrant issued. [/b] That warrant was not just used to listen in on Carter Page. They used it to listen in on the entire Trump campaign.
Without the Dossier no FISA judge would issue a warrant. You know how odd it is, for a FISA Judge not to issue a warrant, when they give them out like candy.
Carter Page is a US Citizen. Not a Foreigner. How does FISA issue a warrant to listen in on an American Citizen?
FISA used to spy on Americans. Carter Page was not the only one.
Samantha Powers had a desk at the NSA just to look at everything Trump and now she is saying, she doesn't know how someone else used her name to log into the database.
FISA Warrants used to spy on over 30,000 Americans. Americans... Americans!!!
Where did you get that stuff about two denied FISA applications? The Guardian at one point said that an initial application was rejected as being too broad but there was never a named source for that so we don't even know if that was true, let alone two.
Yes they can use FISA to listen in on American Citizens who are suspected of acting on behalf of a foreign government. What do you think they use FISA for, to listen to mice in the walls?
Well just like Nunes you left a few things out, like GPS Fusion was originally paid by the RNC, did they just throw away all the Trump research after the DNC came on board. Steele was more than just "a spy", he was a respected ex-British MI-6 investigator into Russia and Ukraine. But of course you had to get "Hillary' in there just like Nunes.
All that is FACTUAL.
This isn't about Trump collusion, I don't know how many times that has been stated. Its regarding Russian intervention in our election process and I think you would agree that there are many people connected to Trump involved with Russia including his own family.
Fusion GPS is not a new player on the field. Their hiring Steele was after the RNC deal, and you know that. All this stinks to hell, and it is SO obvious the prior administration used our FBI, and DOJ to tilt the election, but FAILED! Now it's the "Insurance Policy" being exposed.
That abuse of our Constitution and law and order cannot be ignored or excused!
How about Carter Page admitting that he was working with the Russians. And how about the dossier was not the only documentation put forth to the judge for consideration in issuing the warrant. That's how.
Who cares whom Carter Page was working with?
Carter Page was good with the FBI yesterday and he's good with the FBI today.
Ok, old business taken care of?
Let's move onto new business.
Steele Criminal Referral...
" it is troubling enough that the Clinton campaign funded Mr. Steele's work, but that these Clinton Associates were contemporaneously feeding Mr. Steele allegations raises additional concerns about his credibility"
-US Congress
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Yes, let's move on. The dossier was initially funded by Republicans. And moving on even further, let's let Mueller do his job and let the investigation go where it goes.
This is a lie perpetuated by your fake news.
Republicans initiated opposition research against Trump.
The Crooked Hillary Rodham Clinton DNC funded it and turned it into what is called the Steele Dossier, as well, they were "feeding Steele allegations" to put into that dirt piece of trash.
That article indicates they wanted Carter fired because of ineffectiveness fighting ISIS, absolutely nothing to do with Trump, Trump tower or FISA warrants.
What are they going to do, admit that they wanted Rogers out because he outed the FBI for illegal spying, or because he told Trump they were spying on him?
It is also FACTUAL, that it was Republicans that initially funded the research. And it is also FACTUAL, that the dossier was not the primary evidence used in issuing the warrant. You might want to look at some other news source besides Fox.
Initial funding or not, it has no bearing on the fact that the memo was also democrat funded. If you are the second one to contribute money to a key of cocaine, you still go to jail. Your fingerprints are on the object. The dossier has the taint of democrat money on it. Which is what matters to the case.
In addition, no one in this nation would be able to successfully make the case that somehow "conservative" funding of the dossier constitutes someone with Trump's interests in mind funding it.
Whether the dossier was funded by Dems or Conservatives in name, it is all opposition. That's clear. This isn't tee ball where the teams are strictly comprised of those wearing the same color jerseys. Its pretty funny that you imply this world-view after the election that we had.
Assuming that there is a legal distinction whatsoever, which I highly doubt), so-called "primary" evidence is subjective. Was it labeled "primary" or "secondary" evidence in the justification? Doubt it.
Second, it would not have to be so called "primary" evidence, but merely evidence that was positively weighted in the decision.
No one would be able to prove that it was not weighted whatsoever in the consideration, which is all that is needed to prove that the warrant decision was tainted.
You may want to look at your own media sources, who have been making utter fools of themselves for two years with their rabid bias against a democratically elected candidate. Its embarrassing to you and to the US ability to maintain what the world views as democratically sound institutions. It's disgusting.
Carter Page was good with the FBI yesterday and he's good with the FBI today.
Ok, old business taken care of?
Let's move onto new business.
Steele Criminal Referral...
" it is troubling enough that the Clinton campaign funded Mr. Steele's work, but that these Clinton Associates were contemporaneously feeding Mr. Steele allegations raises additional concerns about his credibility"
-US Congress
Yes, let's move on. The dossier was initially funded by Republicans. And moving on even further, let's let Mueller do his job and let the investigation go where it goes.
Initial funding or not, it has no bearing on the fact that the memo was also democrat funded. If you are the second one to contribute money to a key of cocaine, you still go to jail. Your fingerprints are on the object. The dossier has the taint of democrat money on it. Which is what matters to the case.
In addition, no one in this nation would be able to successfully make the case that somehow "conservative" funding of the dossier constitutes someone with Trump's interests in mind funding it.
Whether the dossier was funded by Dems or Conservatives in name, it is all opposition. That's clear. This isn't tee ball where the teams are strictly comprised of those wearing the same color jerseys. Its pretty funny that you imply this world-view after the election that we had.
Assuming that there is a legal distinction whatsoever, which I highly doubt), so-called "primary" evidence is subjective. Was it labeled "primary" or "secondary" evidence in the justification? Doubt it.
Second, it would not have to be so called "primary" evidence, but merely evidence that was positively weighted in the decision.
No one would be able to prove that it was not weighted whatsoever in the consideration, which is all that is needed to prove that the warrant decision was tainted.
You may want to look at your own media sources, who have been making utter fools of themselves for two years with their rabid bias against a democratically elected candidate. Its embarrassing to you and to the US ability to maintain what the world views as democratically sound institutions. It's disgusting.
I'll give you that the Dems and Reps are both found wanting in a lot of areas. The bottom line for me is Mueller is investigating the Russians interfering in our elections. Everyone in this country should be glad about that. We should all sit back and let that investigation go where it goes. What's the most disturbing thing of all is that Trump refuses to admit what is a fact agreed upon by our national security agencies. He refuses to enforce the sanctions that were voted on in Congress. Why is he defending Russia as vehemently as he is while calling the citizens of his own country traitors? It's abhorrent.
Yes, let's move on. The dossier was initially funded by Republicans. And moving on even further, let's let Mueller do his job and let the investigation go where it goes.
Wrong, see above.
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