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Old 02-02-2018, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by Erratikmind View Post
Was there a memo issued that allowed mass shootings to occur?
Unwritten. We have seen Congress sit on their hands and offer nothing but "thoughts and prayers", a totally futile gesture to make them look good for the cameras without having to do any work or **** off their NRA owners.

They still allow mass shootings to occur, at the rate of approximately one per day. There were eleven school shootings the first 23 days of January, and that is just the schools.
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Old 02-02-2018, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Because gun stores, shooting ranges, and gun shows consist of probably 0.00001% of the real estate in which shootings can occur, and thus are likely to consist of probably 0.00001% of the shootings.
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Old 02-02-2018, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Banning guns to prevent mass shootings is like banning fire extinguishers and smoke detectors to prevent fires or banning airbags to prevent car accidents.
Ask England and Australia about that. You might be surprised. Did it stop all shootings everywhere? No. But neither has had anything like the scenarios that play out here almost daily. The United States is the only first-world country that still has problems with mass shootings. Everyoine else has solved their problems.
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Old 02-02-2018, 06:49 AM
 
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Unwritten. We have seen Congress sit on their hands and offer nothing but "thoughts and prayers", a totally futile gesture to make them look good for the cameras without having to do any work or **** off their NRA owners.

They still allow mass shootings to occur, at the rate of approximately one per day. There were eleven school shootings the first 23 days of January, and that is just the schools.
That 11 school shootings was not true. Go read the thread on that.


Here are the 11 gun-related incidents at or near schools in 2018:

  • January 3: A 31-year-old man shot and killed himself in the parking lot of his former elementary school in Michigan.
  • January 4: Shots were fired at New Start High School outside Seattle. No one was hit or hurt.
  • January 5: A bullet from a pellet gun shattered the window of a Forest City, Iowa, school bus full of students while in transit. No one was injured.
  • January 9: A 14-year-old male student killed himself in the bathroom of an elementary school in Arizona.
  • January 10: A bullet hit a building at California State University, San Bernardino. No one was injured.
  • January 10: A student at Grayson College in Texas accidentally fired a bullet during a gun training session with an instructor. No one was hurt.
  • January 15: Police in Marshall, Texas, responded to reports of gunfire just after midnight on the Wiley College campus. A stray bullet entered one of the dormitories, but no one was hit.
  • January 20: A Winston-Salem State University football player was shot and killed during an event at Wake Forest University.
  • January 22: A 16-year-old shot and injured a female student several times at Italy High School in Texas.
  • January 22: Someone in a pickup truck fired at a group of students gathered in front of Net Charter School in New Orleans. One boy was injured.
  • January 23: A 15-year-old student at a high school in Kentucky shot and killed two students and injured 17 others.
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Old 02-02-2018, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Quite the opposite; I have not heard of a Mass Shooting in a Police station. All of the police in a police station are armed. If you intent was to try and kill lots of people why not start their.


Simple the person is most likely a coward, and does not want to be met with armed resistance.


Notice in most mass shooting, the killer chooses to take their own life, why again, they do not want to spend the rest of their lives in jail, or did not want to go out in a hail of bullets. But one quick bullet of their own does the trick again a coward.
Now you have. There are more, if you look.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/13/u...-shooting.html
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Old 02-02-2018, 06:53 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Still it happened in a state with easy gun laws.

California. Do I really need to say any more? A state that actively persecutes firearms owners, will prosecute people with zeal for lawful and totally necessary self defense and as we speak is passing more and more legislation that makes a bad situation even worse.


CAs big metro areas see bullets flying from the barrels of illegal firearms in the hands of criminal fleabags every single day. The lions share of gang related shootings qualify as "mass" shootings as well. They just don't make national headlines because they are so common and don't fit the anti 2A agenda.


An SUV full of banger vermin hotels rolling up on a street corner and hosing down three or four rival gang members slinging drugs off a claimed street corner doen't carry the same shock factor as a White guy with a mainstream background who has something in his brain short out and goes pear shaped with an AR 15.


Gang fleabags with UZIs, MACS, Tech 9s, illegally modified shotguns, Glocks and SIGs etc killing rival bangers and catching innocents in the cross fire just isn't newsworthy. And the fact that many of the weapons those gangs are using are stolen from the military or other government possession is not something the ban happy bunch want o be common knowledge either.


They want us all to believe that citizen firearms ownership is the reason that heavy hitting hardware ends up in criminal hands. Why would these gangs and other seriously violent criminals bother with stealing semi auto only firearms from private owners when they have access to stolen military hardware?


These gangs are the cartels foot soldiers here in the US and the cartels aren't just smuggling drugs. They run all sorts of military goodies to the gangs. Not just small arms either. Stuff like grenades and her destructive devices and material are things they keep in inventory ready to ship.


And all the gun laws that make criminals out of honest citizens don't do a bloody thing to even mildly inconvenience them. Even in states and municipalities that have seriously stiff requirements for private purchase and ownership of firearms all manner of guns are still quite available to gangs and other criminals. In very state in the Union a background check at the purchase point is required and contrary to what many are saying that includes gun shows.


But any lowlife with a wad of drug cash in his pocket can buy a fully auto AK, M4 or other such weapon without any sort of paper trail. Laws upon laws could be passed up to and including total bans on private firearms and it won't change that a whit.
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Old 02-02-2018, 06:54 AM
 
Location: NC
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answering the OP is easy, there are good people around with guns that can shoot back at these places.
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Old 02-02-2018, 06:56 AM
 
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Banning guns to prevent mass shootings is like banning fire extinguishers and smoke detectors to prevent fires or banning airbags to prevent car accidents.
You have to understand the liberal mindset. Just think like a child. Bad person commits a bad thing with a gun. You might hurt someone's feelings if you blame the bad person so you just remove the gun. Then everyone's happy and the world is perfect again.

See how that works?
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Old 02-02-2018, 07:00 AM
 
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Now you have. There are more, if you look.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/13/u...-shooting.html
This was not a mass shooting........ the only person shot was the perp. Although I understand your meaning. It was an attempt, but such attempts are rare.
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Old 02-02-2018, 07:00 AM
 
Location: PSL
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If there were not a lot of guns, how did it get there?
For pulse? The fact the FBI didn't conduct an investigation and place the guy on a NICS hold to prevent him from purchasing the weapon he used.

I left out the fact he was involved with ISIS, as it would make no difference if the scumbag was affiliated with any other radical group foreign or domestic.

The fact you choose to double down on the feeble argument of quantity of firearms available, choosing to ignore the facts that existed surrounding that case is amusing.
Amusing in the fact for 100s of millions in circulation, there aren't 100s of millions of deaths and shootings.

Mateen walked in to my local gun store acting shady, asking about body armor and cases of ammo... he was reported. No follow up. No NICS hold.

Pulse serves alcohol.
Florida state law prohibits carry into an establishment that serves alcohol. Had the sober staff on site been allowed to carry there would likely have been a different outcome.
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