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View Poll Results: Other than the shooter, who do you think is most responsible for the tragedy
Youtube, for deleting the warning comments of someone on the video 1 0.71%
The FBI 19 13.57%
The sheriff and his deputies 19 13.57%
The NRA 21 15.00%
Donald Trump 1 0.71%
The Second Amendment 6 4.29%
The FBI AND the sheriff and deputies and maybe Youtube too 51 36.43%
Other 22 15.71%
Voters: 140. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-14-2018, 04:41 PM
 
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What a stupid comment.
Nothing stupid about it. You make excuses and allow children to be murdered as along as you get to keep your guns. Just admit it.
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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You really think that criminals would give up their guns?
Not easily. It is a project and it will take time. But criminals are not the ones shooting innocent children in our classrooms.
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:42 PM
 
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Evidence based, we have no indication that arming students would prevent shootings in school.
Evidence based? Provide theirs evidence, who has said anything about arming the students?

Because they are gun free zones....my goodness, are people this ignorant?





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We have mountains of evidence that eliminating (semi)automatic weapons from general possession would reduce the frequency and severity of events.

Provide a link of this "mountain of evidence" that you speak of....we will wait....
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:43 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Maybe it’s because these school, church, music venue shooters are just savage thugs.

Oh no, that can’t be it.
I described it as "having a broken thing inside their heads".

Doesn't sound much different to me.
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:43 PM
 
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Nothing stupid about it. You make excuses and allow children to be murdered as along as you get to keep your guns. Just admit it.
And how do you propose getting guns from criminals, even if all law abiding people gave up theirs?
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:43 PM
 
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Deaths in the US from terrorism are a tiny fraction of those from mass shootings. You good with ignoring terrorism?
Of course not, who aid I was alright with mass shootings?

Lets address the problem, more laws? Do tell, be specific.
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:44 PM
 
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To further point out the obvious, there are people who will attack other people with deadly force that guns were designed to defend against.

Try again.
Nope. Firearms were invented to kill people. Do not try to obfuscate my statement.
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:44 PM
 
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Of course not, who aid I was alright with mass shootings?

Lets address the problem, more laws? Do tell, be specific.
I guess we need another 20,000 gun laws to match the 20,000 we have now.
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Because they are gun free zones....my goodness, are people this ignorant?








Provide a link of this "mountain of evidence" that you speak of....we will wait....
I should have said "continent". Australia.
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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We have some irate illogical anti gun people in this thread. SMH.
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It does not matter what he was/is. The problem is that people with murderous intentions have virtually unlimited access to military grade weapons and ammunition.
Exactly. That was my point. Some folks seem eager to place the blame on their political enemies. That's not helpful and it's foolish since a bad guy can be Democratic, Republican, undecided or anything in the middle.

I had to change my quote based on another post --

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There is plenty of illogical people in this thread. So far, I've seen that he was a Hispanic Trump supporting registered Democrat spouting off Islamic stuff on Istagram. Oh, and that he may have been on anti-depressants and played video games.
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